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RIP Wagn
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(Paul Oter) wrote: R.C. Payne wrote: Colin Rosenstiel wrote: In article .com, (Paul Oter) wrote: Colin Rosenstiel wrote: Their [FCC's] flying start is to scrap the refreshment trolleys on the Cruisers. Cost-free to the TOC they were, too. Hardly in line with their policy of encouraging off-peak travel. They also seem to have scrapped the phrase "Cambridge Cruiser" in favour of the phrase "Cambridge Express", according to the new pocket timetable. Sensibly the description doesn't seem to be restricted to the non-stop services but to all the fast trains that Cambridge people would want to use. Only if you go by the title of the pocket timetable leaflet. I don't think the WAGN predecessor used the Cruiser name either. I have to say WAGN seem not to have used the Cruiser branding much recently anyway. The departure boards at Kings Cross used the term. I've not been up to London (down from Cambridge) since FCC took over. Indeed I saw the term Cambridge Cruiser on the departure board at KX this morning. And I saw "FirstCapitalConnect" on them this evening. It only just fits, hard up against "On Time" with no space. -- Colin Rosenstiel |
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RIP Wagn
On Sat, 8 Apr 2006 11:56:47 +0100, Edward Cowling London UK
wrote: I hadn't realised WAGN (Wait Allday Get Nowhere) Thought it was We Are Going Nowhere, as per http://www.geocities.com/selefarm/ -- Philip [Don't top post. Quote selectively. Don't use HTML. Enjoy Usenet] |
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Their [FCC's] flying start is to scrap the refreshment trolleys
on the Cruisers. Cost-free to the TOC they were, too. Hardly in So far not much difference. http://www.jcheck.com/fcc is less useful than it was as it carries info for both the WGC/HFN and Thameslink services so is cluttered and doesn't help travellers on either line in this way. They're aggressively gripping the regulars most mornings on train and at KX with close and thorough inspections (but yer seasoned avoider is still just train walking and changing at finsbury park or highbury or claiming "the train woz just pullin in"). Yep, about the same really. They've already wasted a fortune changing the train livery, stationary, timetables and converting the staff into postman-pat look-alikes. I'd rather see "WAGN" on my timetable until June and perhaps have something else improved. What a waste. What a shame on the day they launched there were no trains via WGC and on until June at weekends. Start as you mean to go on eh D |
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RIP Wagn
In message , Philip K
writes On Sat, 8 Apr 2006 11:56:47 +0100, Edward Cowling London UK wrote: I hadn't realised WAGN (Wait Allday Get Nowhere) Thought it was We Are Going Nowhere, as per http://www.geocities.com/selefarm/ I refer my esteemed colleague to Wikipedia, which has both of these definitions as acceptable :-) -- Edward Cowling London UK |
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RIP Wagn
Edward Cowling London UK wrote:
I refer my esteemed colleague to Wikipedia, which has both of these definitions as acceptable :-) As I haven't seen it anywhere yet, can I claim credit for; We Are Gone Now ? Jonathan |
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RIP Wagn
In article 007c01c65cdf$0f2911d0$6400a8c0@DAVE, (Dave
Plumb) wrote: Their [FCC's] flying start is to scrap the refreshment trolleys on the Cruisers. Cost-free to the TOC they were, too. Hardly in So far not much difference. http://www.jcheck.com/fcc is less useful than it was as it carries info for both the WGC/HFN and Thameslink services so is cluttered and doesn't help travellers on either line in this way. They're aggressively gripping the regulars most mornings on train and at KX with close and thorough inspections (but yer seasoned avoider is still just train walking and changing at finsbury park or highbury or claiming "the train woz just pullin in"). ROFL! That must have lasted all of two days. Back to the usual WAGN pattern for me. Today, two grippers on my bit of the 10:15 Cambridge-KX, both ex-WAGN with new uniforms. Nobody on the 19:15 off the Cross tonight, as usual. Yep, about the same really. They've already wasted a fortune changing the train livery, stationary, timetables and converting the staff into postman-pat look-alikes. I'd rather see "WAGN" on my timetable until June and perhaps have something else improved. What a waste. The pocket timetables needed re-issuing. The weekend services on the last edition ran out before the 1 April - 10 June blockades. What a shame on the day they launched there were no trains via WGC and on until June at weekends. Start as you mean to go on eh That bit is *not* FCC's fault. Typical Network rail, buggering up both routes between Cambridge and London at weekends at the same time for the second year running! :-(( -- Colin Rosenstiel |
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RIP Wagn
ROFL! That must have lasted all of two days. Back to the usual WAGN
pattern for me. Today, two grippers on my bit of the 10:15 Cambridge-KX, Ahh, I changed at FPK the rest of the week as they were harassing Oyster holders since they didn't all have a reader and demanded to know where you got on etc (which is reasonable but doesn't deal with the persistent fare evader they're all too scared to tackle). The pocket timetables needed re-issuing. The weekend services on the last edition ran out before the 1 April - 10 June blockades. A smaller insert for the weekends would have done, not discard the WAGN ones and reprint. I'm sure WAGN wouldn't have wasted the money in this way for just a couple of months of timetable. If the timetable lasted until December, fair enough, but to re-issue them for a couple of months was a waste. What a shame on the day they launched there were no trains via WGC and That bit is *not* FCC's fault. Typical Network rail, buggering up both Not arranging for ticket acceptance on their other line at St. Albans and Elstree stations is, even as a courtesy in addition to the 'bus'. Even if you just do it for gold card holders. I don't use the railway much at the weekends but this is quite a chunk out of the ticket that's a bus service instead of a train. If I wanted to do it that way I'd have bought a 4 zone travelcard and done it by bus to Arnos Grove! My 15 minute journey is an hour by bus. FCC won't be charged track access charges nor pay drivers for Sunday working. NR most likely pick up the tab for the replacement buses, while FCC continue to sell rail priced tickets and benefit from what they've charged me for the weekends which is a useless service! D |
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RIP Wagn
Dave Plumb wrote:
Ahh, I changed at FPK the rest of the week as they were harassing Oyster holders since they didn't all have a reader and demanded to know where you got on etc (which is reasonable but doesn't deal with the persistent fare evader they're all too scared to tackle). Last week, the front line grippers at KGX checked tickets, with people standing behind using wands to scan Oyster card users. I simply waved my Gold record card and quickly realised that waving /anything/ in a plastic pocket would have sufficed. Not arranging for ticket acceptance on their other line at St. Albans and Elstree stations is, even as a courtesy in addition to the 'bus'. Even if you just do it for gold card holders. Don't I know it. I hoped FCC would have seen sense, but as soon as they started quoting their requirements, it became clear we weren't going to get any 'goodwill gesture' from them. It costs First absolutely nothing (and, if anything would save them money) to do this, so I am rather disappointed. Jonathan |
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