... waved my Gold record card and quickly realised that waving
/anything/
A woman in front of me flashed her oyster and the back line guy with the
reader wasn't quick enough, one of the front line guys said "after her"
and the bemused gripper with tool in hand was chasing across the
concourse shouting "excuse me" to anyone who'd listen as he only then
realised he didn't know what she looked like Meanwhile I went through
and flashed the oyster while they were too busy trying to work out who
they'd missed. Keystone cops at its best and for free too

Not arranging for ticket acceptance on their other line at St. Albans
It costs First absolutely nothing (and, if anything would save them
money) to do this, so I am rather disappointed.
Whilst that's true ... it would cost them the fare they'd otherwise make
so it's not in their business interests, especially now they've paid out
for all those second hand postie uniforms.

It would have to be a goodwill gesture and a shame so fresh into their
franchise one they aren't prepared to make. But it's no more or less
than I'd expect from WAGN so it's business as usual, albeit with this
"new way forward" crap everywhere.

D

Dave Plumb wrote:
Whilst that's true ... it would cost them the fare they'd otherwise make

I don't know how they'll combine the fare structure in the long run,
but if you've got a ticket from Hatfield then it makes no difference if
you take the bus, or go to St Albans and take the train. Or, it
shouldn't.

If they say tickets are valid on the Thameslink branch (During the
shutdown only, I'm not talking about using St Albans as and when you
please), it's only going to be existing ticket holders that will take
advantage of this offer. Anyone else will either buy a ticket and use
the bus, or go to St Albans and buy a ticket there (you wouldn't buy a
ticket at Hatfield/Potters Bar on the day THEN go to another station).

So, passing tickets wouldn't make much difference - other than to
create goodwill amongst season ticket holders, whether that be a 7 day,
30 day or annual ticket.

Bear in mind that the only time I've travelled on a weekend, I simply
told the guard at St Albans that there were no trains from Hatfield and
he let me through. I didn't actually lie did I?! It's possible you can
talk your way through, but it's potentially risky if you meet another
gripper between St Albans and the boundary (travelcard season ticket
holders). I came back in a car, so didn't have to try and get out of St
Albans using the same trick.

Jonathan

but if you've got a ticket from Hatfield then it makes no difference
if you take the bus, or go to St Albans and take the train. Or, it
shouldn't.
I agree, it's disgusting they think so little of their passengers
they're not prepared to take the loss on the alternative route (which is
£3 CDR/GOLD St.Albans to Elstree). But they have shareholders and
whatever rules they play say buses are good enough. They have a captive
market and are happy to play upon that captivity to make a few quid more


Same with annual tickets not being bearer tikcets. I drove to work early
one sat with the girlfriend joining me later by train, both coming back
by car. She had to buy a full price t/card, even though there was no
possibility of me using my annual. I know there could be cases where a
couple on shifts could use one ticket but they must be very rare, and it
would be a good feature if seasons became bearer, but not for the TOC,
who would lose revenue (albeit minimal).

valid on the Thameslink branch (During the shutdown only
I seem to recall during the weekday blockade works on Thameslink that
WAGN were accepting tickets. But I guess this was now different
companies and during the week so it'd be hard to use it as a precedent.

So, passing tickets wouldn't make much difference
I'd like to see it, but I can't see it happening So much for the
"from this day forward" (I read what it said on the posters correctly
this time!)

D

Dave Plumb wrote:
I'd like to see it, but I can't see it happening So much for the
"from this day forward" (I read what it said on the posters correctly
this time!)

It looks like WAGN is making a comeback anyway. (Taken Thursday 13th
April 2006)

http://www.whatmobile.net/tmp/fcc/wagnliveson.jpg

(Notice too that it's just CAPITAL CONNECT on the right hand display).

Jonathan

In article .com,
(Jonathan Morris) wrote:

Dave Plumb wrote:
I'd like to see it, but I can't see it happening So much for the
"from this day forward" (I read what it said on the posters
correctly this time!)

It looks like WAGN is making a comeback anyway. (Taken Thursday 13th
April 2006)

http://www.whatmobile.net/tmp/fcc/wagnliveson.jpg

(Notice too that it's just CAPITAL CONNECT on the right hand display).

chuckle It also shows how "FirstCapitalConnect" only just fits by
leaving out all the spaces. How soon before Network Rail switch to "FCC"
I wonder?

My spilling chukka suggests "Fantastical" for "FirstCapitalConnect".
Very good!

--
Colin Rosenstiel

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We Are Gone Now

LOL.

Colin Rosenstiel wrote:
In article .com,
(Jonathan Morris) wrote:

Dave Plumb wrote:

http://www.whatmobile.net/tmp/fcc/wagnliveson.jpg

(Notice too that it's just CAPITAL CONNECT on the right hand display).

chuckle It also shows how "FirstCapitalConnect" only just fits by
leaving out all the spaces. How soon before Network Rail switch to "FCC"
I wonder?


At KX this evening both the main and smaller departure boards were
showing the TOC as "First Cap Connect"

PaulO

In article .com,
(Paul Oter) wrote:

Colin Rosenstiel wrote:
In article .com,
(Jonathan Morris) wrote:

Dave Plumb wrote:

http://www.whatmobile.net/tmp/fcc/wagnliveson.jpg

(Notice too that it's just CAPITAL CONNECT on the right hand
display).

chuckle It also shows how "FirstCapitalConnect" only just fits by
leaving out all the spaces. How soon before Network Rail switch to
"FCC" I wonder?

At KX this evening both the main and smaller departure boards were
showing the TOC as "First Cap Connect"

Hmm. Missed that. I was too busy trying to figure which platform the
19:15 was going to depart from. It was definitely FirstCapitalConnect
yesterday.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Colin Rosenstiel wrote:
In article .com,
(Paul Oter) wrote:

Colin Rosenstiel wrote:
In article .com,
(Jonathan Morris) wrote:

Dave Plumb wrote:

http://www.whatmobile.net/tmp/fcc/wagnliveson.jpg

(Notice too that it's just CAPITAL CONNECT on the right hand
display).

chuckle It also shows how "FirstCapitalConnect" only just fits by
leaving out all the spaces. How soon before Network Rail switch to
"FCC" I wonder?

At KX this evening both the main and smaller departure boards were
showing the TOC as "First Cap Connect"

Hmm. Missed that. I was too busy trying to figure which platform the
19:15 was going to depart from. It was definitely FirstCapitalConnect
yesterday.


Strange - I was on the 1915 too. I was referring to the displays that
give a list of departures: the big one in the main concourse and the
smaller ones such as the one facing the York Road entrance. These were
all using the wording First Cap Connect at about 1905 last night.
(Though I wonder whether the TOC itself approved the abbreviation).

The displays on the platforms which only show a single departure were
showing First Capital Connect.

We may well see further variations in the future as staff learn how to
cope with this ridiculously long name.

PaulO

[First Cap Connect on departure boards at King's Cross]

See also the thread "First Cap Connect" over on uk.railway, which
includes links to some photos.

PaulO