Whiskers wrote:
On 2006-05-04, John in Surrey wrote:
Hi folks
Is it me or are the trains slow on this line?

Indeed they are John. 'A' stock trains have a maximum speed of around
50mph as they are now very old dears - the oldest are 45 years of age.
As an example, it takes ten minutes longer now to travel from Watford
to Baker Street than it did when I was a kid in the early 1980s.

When the 'S' stock is introduced on the met (in 2010?) expect a big
drop in journey times as the trains will have a maximum speed of 70mph.

THC

wrote:
Whiskers wrote:
On 2006-05-04, John in Surrey wrote:
Hi folks
Is it me or are the trains slow on this line?

Indeed they are John. 'A' stock trains have a maximum speed of around
50mph as they are now very old dears - the oldest are 45 years of age.
As an example, it takes ten minutes longer now to travel from Watford
to Baker Street than it did when I was a kid in the early 1980s.

When the 'S' stock is introduced on the met (in 2010?) expect a big
drop in journey times as the trains will have a maximum speed of 70mph.

THC

The S(**t) stock may have a higher speeds, but given that Metromess
can't even get the track ready for a bit of warm weather (HOT should
only be used when the temperature goes over 30!) will the track be able
to allow the higher speeds...NO.

Surely it's the state of the track and/or signal overlap lengths which
restrict the speed of A Stocks? The S Stock may be capable of faster
speed, what they won't admit is the likelihood of it having 20-30% less
seats. Time to bring back straphangers perhaps?

In reply to news post, which wrote on Wed, 10 May
2006 -
Surely it's the state of the track and/or signal overlap lengths which
restrict the speed of A Stocks? The S Stock may be capable of faster
speed, what they won't admit is the likelihood of it having 20-30% less
seats. Time to bring back straphangers perhaps?

The A stock is restricted to I believe 50mph owing to cracks in the
bogies.

The Chiltern services which share part of the track go faster. In the
past I am sure I saw sped signs for 70, but perhaps it is 60 now.

The potentially reduced seating of the S stock is a problem, as I
believe is the type of seat, it can be a long journey out to Amersham /
Chesham
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Matthew P Jones wrote:
The A stock is restricted to I believe 50mph owing to cracks in the
bogies.

The Chiltern services which share part of the track go faster. In the
past I am sure I saw sped signs for 70, but perhaps it is 60 now.

It's 50 for A stock, 60 for 165s and 168s. The only section posted at
70 is north of Amersham.


The potentially reduced seating of the S stock is a problem, as I
believe is the type of seat, it can be a long journey out to Amersham /
Chesham

At the moment no one seems to know what type of seating will be used in
the S stock for the long runs out to Amersham - current thinking is
that there will be a hybrid seating arrangement to cater for both types
of usage patterns.

In reply to news post, which TheOneKEA wrote on
Wed, 10 May 2006 -
Matthew P Jones wrote:
The A stock is restricted to I believe 50mph owing to cracks in the
bogies.

The Chiltern services which share part of the track go faster. In the
past I am sure I saw sped signs for 70, but perhaps it is 60 now.

It's 50 for A stock, 60 for 165s and 168s. The only section posted at
70 is north of Amersham.


The potentially reduced seating of the S stock is a problem, as I
believe is the type of seat, it can be a long journey out to Amersham /
Chesham

At the moment no one seems to know what type of seating will be used in
the S stock for the long runs out to Amersham - current thinking is
that there will be a hybrid seating arrangement to cater for both types
of usage patterns.


Have not looked out of the window recently for speed signs, I am pretty
sure years ago there was 70 on the Met

With regards seating, I also heard the hybrid idea, but no one seems to
know. If they don't get it right, I think many people will be unhappy.
When the designed the A stock, they built prototypes to try out new
ideas. The coaches before A stock were compartments and the A stock was
a kind of compromise between a normal underground carriage and a
compartment stock coach.


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