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Sorry, that's a bit confusing...

If you go down the steps at Goodge Street (after the lift), to the area
between the two Northern Line platforms, believe it or not, but the metal
sign still shows the Jubilee Line stopping at Charing +, and no Jubilee
connection at Waterloo.

Amazingly, considering this sign must be at least from 1999 - possibly
earlier, as I would have thought there would have been some kind of
indication that the Jubilee connection at Charing + was going to be
withdrawn for a while before it actually happened.

But what amazes me is that it hasn't been changed. Have the staff, the
Manager of the Northern Line (and the Jubilee Line for that matter),
completely not realised that this is the case? Do they know but can't be
arsed (strange, as it's big enough and it's the first thing you see when
you go down the stairs). There's no evidence of a sticker with the changes
having been removed by someone.

My guess is that they simply haven't noticed, as there's always a budget
set aside for changes to signage and it wouldn't cost much to do.

Any other examples of totally misleading signage out there? (that's been
misleading for several years, as I'm sure there's still plenty of signs
still around with Shoreditch still open....)

So a sign that beats 1999 as far as inaccuracy is concerned then? (I'm not
referring to signs that aren't changed because they're "quaint" such as the
various spellings of St James'(s) Park in the same station, but rather
things that are plain wrong and would almost certainly confuse the hell out
of the poor tourists). And not including signs that are there for
historical reasons, such as Heath Street in Hampstead. There's no excuse
for the mistake in Goodge Street really is there!

Any still-in-use signs directing people to Aldwych or Ongar perhaps? That
would beat the 1999 sign by 5 years :-)

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Tristán White wrote:
Sorry, that's a bit confusing...

If you go down the steps at Goodge Street (after the lift), to the
area between the two Northern Line platforms, believe it or not,
but the metal sign still shows the Jubilee Line stopping at Charing
+, and no Jubilee connection at Waterloo.

[...]
Any other examples of totally misleading signage out there?


The westbound District Line platforms at Earl's Court have shown for
several years "restricted service" for Turnham Green, a comment that was
presumably intended for a sign on the w/b Piccadilly Line platform.
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On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 14:19:51 -0600, Tristán White wrote:

Any still-in-use signs directing people to Aldwych or Ongar perhaps? That
would beat the 1999 sign by 5 years :-)


There was a discussion here a few weeks ago about line diagrams that
still show Aldwych.

The ones at some District/Piccadilly stations still show the
interchange at Hammersmith as being with the Metropolitan Line.

Any advance on 1990?
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On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 22:17:15 +0000, asdf
wrote:

On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 14:19:51 -0600, Tristán White wrote:

Any still-in-use signs directing people to Aldwych or Ongar perhaps? That
would beat the 1999 sign by 5 years :-)


There was a discussion here a few weeks ago about line diagrams that
still show Aldwych.

The ones at some District/Piccadilly stations still show the
interchange at Hammersmith as being with the Metropolitan Line.

Any advance on 1990?


Chiswick Park still has a Mark Lane sign, but that might not count as
it's a deliberate preservation of a historic sign, complete with
explanatory plate.
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Tristán White wrote:

But what amazes me is that it hasn't been changed. Have the staff, the
Manager of the Northern Line (and the Jubilee Line for that matter),
completely not realised that this is the case? Do they know but can't
be arsed (strange, as it's big enough and it's the first thing you
see when you go down the stairs). There's no evidence of a sticker
with the changes having been removed by someone.


LUL have never been on the ball with keeping their signage up to date. Look
how many signs there are that still give directions to "British Rail", ten
years after it disappeared. The same thing applied to all the announcements
about changing for "Network SouthEast", which disappeared on 1st April 1994,
two years before BR.




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asdf wrote:

On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 14:19:51 -0600, Tristán White wrote:


Any still-in-use signs directing people to Aldwych or Ongar perhaps? That
would beat the 1999 sign by 5 years :-)



There was a discussion here a few weeks ago about line diagrams that
still show Aldwych.

The ones at some District/Piccadilly stations still show the
interchange at Hammersmith as being with the Metropolitan Line.

Any advance on 1990?


No, but that reminds me that there are lots of signs from before the
separation of Hammersmith & City and Metropolitan Lines. Many signs at
station entrances etc from Aldgate East to Barking still show that you
can find the Metropolitan Line there.

This is a picture of Aldgate East entrance for example:
ftp://83.249.8.154/public/pictures/S...st_Station.JPG

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In article , invalid@invalid
invalid (asdf) wrote:

On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 14:19:51 -0600, Tristán White wrote:

Any still-in-use signs directing people to Aldwych or Ongar

perhaps? That would beat the 1999 sign by 5 years :-)

There was a discussion here a few weeks ago about line diagrams that
still show Aldwych.

The ones at some District/Piccadilly stations still show the
interchange at Hammersmith as being with the Metropolitan Line.

Any advance on 1990?


Several tube stations still have original tile signs dating back to their
opening about 100 years ago with their original names.

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James Farrar typed


Chiswick Park still has a Mark Lane sign, but that might not count as
it's a deliberate preservation of a historic sign, complete with
explanatory plate.


Burnt Oak had 'For Stag Lane Aerodrome' until quite recently...

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"Jack Taylor" wrote in
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Tristán White wrote:

But what amazes me is that it hasn't been changed. Have the staff,
the Manager of the Northern Line (and the Jubilee Line for that
matter), completely not realised that this is the case? Do they know
but can't be arsed (strange, as it's big enough and it's the first
thing you see when you go down the stairs). There's no evidence of a
sticker with the changes having been removed by someone.


LUL have never been on the ball with keeping their signage up to date.
Look how many signs there are that still give directions to "British
Rail", ten years after it disappeared. The same thing applied to all
the announcements about changing for "Network SouthEast", which
disappeared on 1st April 1994, two years before BR.



True, but "British Rail" is not misleading for tourists. In fact, it's
probably much easier than having the correct nomenclature.

So there's less of an urgency to change it.

But in the case I've given, it's misleading - and easy to remedy. I'm just
wondering whether it could possibly have been overlooked for so many years,
or whether it's just a case of not being arsed to do anything about it.
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