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On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 17:12:03 +0000, Ben wrote:

There could well be a small passageway between buck house and perhaps
the nearest
tube station however. This sort of thing certainly isn't unheard of.


In the past I have speculated that such a passage exists between the
palace grounds and Hyde Park Corner station. It is pure speculation,
based on the proximity (and the fact that no other stations are anywhere
near as close).


Down Street is nearer, and also benefits from not having passengers or
maintenance staff poking about.

Wouldn't such a thing be common knowledge among the maintenance people
who walk the line, or are they well trained in not noticing things.


Perhaps you'll find that none of them are ever told to walk Down
Street Siding, which is said to continue to Buckingham Palace.
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On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 17:12:03 +0000, Ben wrote:

There could well be a small passageway between buck house and perhaps
the nearest
tube station however. This sort of thing certainly isn't unheard of.

In the past I have speculated that such a passage exists between the
palace grounds and Hyde Park Corner station. It is pure speculation,
based on the proximity (and the fact that no other stations are anywhere
near as close).


Down Street is nearer, and also benefits from not having passengers or
maintenance staff poking about.

Wouldn't such a thing be common knowledge among the maintenance people
who walk the line, or are they well trained in not noticing things.


Perhaps you'll find that none of them are ever told to walk Down
Street Siding, which is said to continue to Buckingham Palace.


just had a look at Heapey on Google Earth - doesn't seem to have been
messed with?

53 40' 39.82" N
2 35' 34.56" W

steveb


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On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 17:12:03 +0000, Ben wrote:

There could well be a small passageway between buck house and perhaps
the nearest
tube station however. This sort of thing certainly isn't unheard of.

In the past I have speculated that such a passage exists between the
palace grounds and Hyde Park Corner station. It is pure speculation,
based on the proximity (and the fact that no other stations are
anywhere
near as close).


Down Street is nearer, and also benefits from not having passengers or
maintenance staff poking about.

Wouldn't such a thing be common knowledge among the maintenance people
who walk the line, or are they well trained in not noticing things.


Perhaps you'll find that none of them are ever told to walk Down
Street Siding, which is said to continue to Buckingham Palace.


just had a look at Heapey on Google Earth - doesn't seem to have been
messed with?

53 40' 39.82" N
2 35' 34.56" W

steveb

It's a secret.



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"notbresson" wrote in message Perhaps
you'll find that none of them are ever told to walk Down
Street Siding, which is said to continue to Buckingham Palace.


just had a look at Heapey on Google Earth - doesn't seem to have been
messed with?

53 40' 39.82" N
2 35' 34.56" W

steveb

It's a secret.


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It flew off when I tried to catch it in the net.
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Wed, 21 Feb 2007, asdf remarked:
In the past I have speculated that such a passage exists between the
palace grounds and Hyde Park Corner station. It is pure speculation,
based on the proximity (and the fact that no other stations are anywhere
near as close).


Down Street is nearer,


It isn't, actually. The palace grounds stretch all the way to the Hyde
Park Corner roundabout, and the station's regular street entrance is
right there. Down St is at least twice as far away, and has a section of
Green Park in the way.

and also benefits from not having passengers or
maintenance staff poking about.


I can see why that might be an advantage, and there is some history
there too. But does it benefit from a usable platform?

Wouldn't such a thing be common knowledge among the maintenance people
who walk the line, or are they well trained in not noticing things.


Perhaps you'll find that none of them are ever told to walk Down
Street Siding, which is said to continue to Buckingham Palace.


Is that an informed hint?
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Roland Perry


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In article , Roland Perry
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Down Street is nearer,

[...]
But does it benefit from a usable platform?


There are stub platforms, perhaps 4m long, on each line. If a train (in
either direction) stopped at the old starter signal as if it was
stopping at the station, you can enter the driver's cab from the stub
platform.

I've done this myself from the eastbound stub platform; it appears in
_Neverwhere_ if you have a copy.

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On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 12:05:49 +0000, Clive D. W. Feather wrote:

Down Street is nearer,

[...]
But does it benefit from a usable platform?


There are stub platforms, perhaps 4m long, on each line. If a train (in
either direction) stopped at the old starter signal as if it was
stopping at the station, you can enter the driver's cab from the stub
platform.


During WW2 (and perhaps still?) it was possible for someone waiting on
the stub platform to manually replace the signal to red, in order to
"hail" a passing train.
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In article , asdf
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There are stub platforms, perhaps 4m long, on each line. If a train (in
either direction) stopped at the old starter signal as if it was
stopping at the station, you can enter the driver's cab from the stub
platform.

During WW2 (and perhaps still?) it was possible for someone waiting on
the stub platform to manually replace the signal to red, in order to
"hail" a passing train.


When I did it, the signal was plated as an automatic. The Line
Controller informed the driver of the next train to expect a pickup, and
when the train was heard/seen approaching someone held out a Bardic (or
equivalent) displaying red.

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In message , Clive D. W. Feather
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When I did it, the signal was plated as an automatic. The Line
Controller informed the driver of the next train to expect a pickup,
and when the train was heard/seen approaching someone held out a Bardic
(or equivalent) displaying red.

Will you still be able to do that if and when the line goes to automatic
control? Whilst I'm aware that the train could be stopped, will the
cab have doors? Do I recall that 67 stock don't have them?
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On 22 Feb, 20:40, "Clive D. W. Feather" c...@on-the-
train.demon.co.uk wrote:
In article , asdf
writes

There are stub platforms, perhaps 4m long, on each line. If a train (in
either direction) stopped at the old starter signal as if it was
stopping at the station, you can enter the driver's cab from the stub
platform.

During WW2 (and perhaps still?) it was possible for someone waiting on
the stub platform to manually replace the signal to red, in order to
"hail" a passing train.


When I did it, the signal was plated as an automatic. The Line
Controller informed the driver of the next train to expect a pickup, and
when the train was heard/seen approaching someone held out a Bardic (or
equivalent) displaying red.



And then presumably you piled out from the drivers cab door into the
main part of the carriage, which must have been a cause of bemusement
to the normal passengers.



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