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steveb wrote:

I believe the hamsters are shortly to be replaced by a selection of
those 1.7M humans who signed the internet petition against road
pricing thus
daring to defy the mighty (and all seeing) Bliar

Oh bugger.

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On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 17:12:03 +0000, Ben wrote:

There could well be a small passageway between buck house and perhaps
the nearest
tube station however. This sort of thing certainly isn't unheard of.


In the past I have speculated that such a passage exists between the
palace grounds and Hyde Park Corner station. It is pure speculation,
based on the proximity (and the fact that no other stations are anywhere
near as close).


Down Street is nearer, and also benefits from not having passengers or
maintenance staff poking about.

Wouldn't such a thing be common knowledge among the maintenance people
who walk the line, or are they well trained in not noticing things.


Perhaps you'll find that none of them are ever told to walk Down
Street Siding, which is said to continue to Buckingham Palace.
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Well the 'Strategic Reserve' at Heapey sure has got someone woried.
Google Earth has removed all details with a blur and lots of smears.
Is there something going on there? Few other sites have been doctored as
much as Heapey

Pete


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On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 17:12:03 +0000, Ben wrote:

There could well be a small passageway between buck house and perhaps
the nearest
tube station however. This sort of thing certainly isn't unheard of.

In the past I have speculated that such a passage exists between the
palace grounds and Hyde Park Corner station. It is pure speculation,
based on the proximity (and the fact that no other stations are anywhere
near as close).


Down Street is nearer, and also benefits from not having passengers or
maintenance staff poking about.

Wouldn't such a thing be common knowledge among the maintenance people
who walk the line, or are they well trained in not noticing things.


Perhaps you'll find that none of them are ever told to walk Down
Street Siding, which is said to continue to Buckingham Palace.


just had a look at Heapey on Google Earth - doesn't seem to have been
messed with?

53 40' 39.82" N
2 35' 34.56" W

steveb


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Wed, 21 Feb 2007, asdf remarked:
In the past I have speculated that such a passage exists between the
palace grounds and Hyde Park Corner station. It is pure speculation,
based on the proximity (and the fact that no other stations are anywhere
near as close).


Down Street is nearer,


It isn't, actually. The palace grounds stretch all the way to the Hyde
Park Corner roundabout, and the station's regular street entrance is
right there. Down St is at least twice as far away, and has a section of
Green Park in the way.

and also benefits from not having passengers or
maintenance staff poking about.


I can see why that might be an advantage, and there is some history
there too. But does it benefit from a usable platform?

Wouldn't such a thing be common knowledge among the maintenance people
who walk the line, or are they well trained in not noticing things.


Perhaps you'll find that none of them are ever told to walk Down
Street Siding, which is said to continue to Buckingham Palace.


Is that an informed hint?
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"Seamer" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Feb 21, 4:38 pm, "notbresson" wrote:
"allan tracy" wrote in message

oups.com... On Feb 21,
2:20 pm, "Brian Watson" wrote:
A contributor to The Robert Elms Show on BBC Radio London has just
claimed
there are secret underground train lines between Buckingham Palace and
various other London sites.


Would this be an opportune momment to raise the issue of the
'Strategic Reserve'?


It's at Heapy ex ROF site.
Try parking up close to the site and if you look in the right place you
see
little camera in the trees move and point at you.
It was rail connected but it is only a short low loader haul to Network
Rail
lines. Mostley ex WD 2-8-0s and some Stanier 2-8-0s with large hoppers of
coal there also. Army trucks take in personel to maintain famililiarity
with
the machines and occasionally they must fire up because smoke can
sometimes
be seen.
No coincidence that it isn't far from Lostock Hall and Lower Darwen sheds
which were among the last steam shed closures.
Honest. It's true.


Isn't that all because there's probably ammunition stored there?

Doh!!!



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On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 17:12:03 +0000, Ben wrote:

There could well be a small passageway between buck house and perhaps
the nearest
tube station however. This sort of thing certainly isn't unheard of.

In the past I have speculated that such a passage exists between the
palace grounds and Hyde Park Corner station. It is pure speculation,
based on the proximity (and the fact that no other stations are
anywhere
near as close).


Down Street is nearer, and also benefits from not having passengers or
maintenance staff poking about.

Wouldn't such a thing be common knowledge among the maintenance people
who walk the line, or are they well trained in not noticing things.


Perhaps you'll find that none of them are ever told to walk Down
Street Siding, which is said to continue to Buckingham Palace.


just had a look at Heapey on Google Earth - doesn't seem to have been
messed with?

53 40' 39.82" N
2 35' 34.56" W

steveb

It's a secret.



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On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 17:12:03 +0000, Ben wrote:

There could well be a small passageway between buck house and perhaps
the nearest
tube station however. This sort of thing certainly isn't unheard of.

In the past I have speculated that such a passage exists between the
palace grounds and Hyde Park Corner station. It is pure speculation,
based on the proximity (and the fact that no other stations are anywhere
near as close).


Down Street is nearer, and also benefits from not having passengers or
maintenance staff poking about.

Wouldn't such a thing be common knowledge among the maintenance people
who walk the line, or are they well trained in not noticing things.


Perhaps you'll find that none of them are ever told to walk Down
Street Siding, which is said to continue to Buckingham Palace.


There is a passage at the end of Down Street siding which leads on to the
crossover between the Eastbound & Westbound Piccadilly Line at Hyde Park
Corner. This is used as access for Train Operators to and from a train
that has been stabled in Down Street Siding.

There are no other passageways or so called secret tunnels connecting the
Underground with Buck' House.


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On 2007-02-21, Ben wrote:

In the past I have speculated that such a passage exists between the
palace grounds and Hyde Park Corner station. It is pure speculation,
based on the proximity (and the fact that no other stations are anywhere
near as close).


Wouldn't such a thing be common knowledge among the maintenance people
who walk the line, or are they well trained in not noticing things.


Only the SECRET maintenance people are trained to spot the hidden
doors, of course.
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On 21 Feb, 18:22, "Bill Again" wrote:
"Christopher A.Lee" wrote in message

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On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 17:20:51 +0000, Graeme Wall
wrote:


In message
"Brian Watson" wrote:


A contributor to The Robert Elms Show on BBC Radio London has just
claimed
there are secret underground train lines between Buckingham Palace and
various other London sites.


Nifty conspiracy theory, or fact?


There are certainly tunnels connecting a large number of sites in Central
London but none of the maps I have access to show them connecting to Buck
House. Some of them are PO (now BT) cable tunnels and others connect the
various government 'citadels' under the various ministry buildings.
However
to the best of my knowledge non are equipped with rails.


The usual source of these stories is that someone has heard of these
tunnels
and also of the Post Office railway and put 2 and 2 together and made 5.


The Victoria Line passes under Buck House. I have heard stories of
there being an access for mergencies.


Having been around when the Victoria line was being built I remember the
discussions in the Press of the time. The story was that the direct route
under Buck House was turned down and the line actually makes a big (and
expensive) curve around it. Phil is alleged to have said, " I'm not having
their bloody trains run under my house, thank you!"

Bill


Ha! A quite believable story.

However I wonder whether it is true. If you take a look at the
Victoria line's route as marked on the central London bus map then it
is shown as passing under the Buck House garden but not the building
itself - this makes sense as the line needs to turn so as to be
aligned to run southeast from Victoria station towards Pimlico and
Vauxhall.
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/buses/pdfdocs/centlond.pdf

Of course this alignment may have been chosen to specifically avoid
running under the palace (or the map could be wrong!). However, taking
a look at a street map, even if the options were to take a direct
route under the western corner of the building and taking a deviating
course to avoid the palace, the deviation would not need to be "a big
(and expensive) curve around it [the palace]" but a slight kink.


As to the story of evacuating the Royal Family in an emergency there are
two
runways in Central London capable of taking an aircraft of the Queens
Floght
assuming the latter still exists.


The Broad Walk in Kensington Gardens is the obvious one.


I wonder if that's one of the two that Christopher has in mind -
perhaps he might share his thoughts with us...



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