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On Feb 21, 2:20 pm, "Brian Watson" wrote:
A contributor to The Robert Elms Show on BBC Radio London has just
claimed
there are secret underground train lines between Buckingham Palace and
various other London sites.

Nifty conspiracy theory, or fact?

--
Brian


I am assuming that you mean the Winbuck line that has only one
intermediate station at Northolt.
IIRC it was built in the 50's using Icelandic miners who were shipped
back home after the project was completed.
Test trains are run on the first Thursday of every month, in case of
power fail there is a back up facility at Windsor Castle that consists
of 5000 hamster wheels using 20,000 hamsters. There is a secret
hamster farm behind Eton Station.

I believe the hamsters are shortly to be replaced by a selection of those
1.7M humans who signed the internet petition against road pricing thus
daring to defy the mighty (and all seeing) Bliar


LOL.

I presume these people will be made to run round the inside of the London
Eye and the Yorkshire Wheel.



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There could well be a small passageway between buck house and perhaps
the nearest
tube station however. This sort of thing certainly isn't unheard of.


They'll probably seal it off though, when they hear how much this desirable
facility will increase their council tax in the forthcoming review...


....or if they see 'V for vendetta'
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Roland Perry wrote:
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06:47:10 on Wed, 21 Feb 2007, Boltar remarked:
There could well be a small passageway between buck house and perhaps
the nearest
tube station however. This sort of thing certainly isn't unheard of.


In the past I have speculated that such a passage exists between the
palace grounds and Hyde Park Corner station. It is pure speculation,
based on the proximity (and the fact that no other stations are anywhere
near as close).


Wouldn't such a thing be common knowledge among the maintenance people
who walk the line, or are they well trained in not noticing things.
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"Brian Watson" wrote:

A contributor to The Robert Elms Show on BBC Radio London has just claimed
there are secret underground train lines between Buckingham Palace and
various other London sites.

Nifty conspiracy theory, or fact?


There are certainly tunnels connecting a large number of sites in Central
London but none of the maps I have access to show them connecting to Buck
House. Some of them are PO (now BT) cable tunnels and others connect the
various government 'citadels' under the various ministry buildings. However
to the best of my knowledge non are equipped with rails.

The usual source of these stories is that someone has heard of these tunnels
and also of the Post Office railway and put 2 and 2 together and made 5.

As to the story of evacuating the Royal Family in an emergency there are two
runways in Central London capable of taking an aircraft of the Queens Floght
assuming the latter still exists.

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On 21 Feb, 17:12, Ben wrote:
In the past I have speculated that such a passage exists between the
palace grounds and Hyde Park Corner station. It is pure speculation,
based on the proximity (and the fact that no other stations are anywhere
near as close).


Wouldn't such a thing be common knowledge among the maintenance people
who walk the line, or are they well trained in not noticing things.


The railway isn't known for its competence now is it...



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Brian Watson wrote:

A contributor to The Robert Elms Show on BBC Radio London has just claimed
there are secret underground train lines between Buckingham Palace and
various other London sites.

Nifty conspiracy theory, or fact?

--
Brian



I heard a bit of this whilst out for a jog this afternoon - if anyone
wants to listen again for the next week they can do so by following
this link:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/netwo...robertelms_wed

I've heard plenty of good stuff about London on Robert Elms' show when
I've tuned in, but the stories about secret Underground railways that
featured on this particular show was not good stuff, it was all a load
of cobblers!

There are undoubtedly some quasi-secret tunnels and installations in
London - for example the "Q-Whitehall" facility and "PINDAR" [1] - and
there are quite possibly a number of others - but there's no secret
Underground railway lines!

More about the aforementioned underground installations on Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_citadels_under_London

If you want to read about a Metro system that quite possibly does have
a secret line, as well as a supposed dual-purpose so it serves as a
link between military facilities, take a look at this unofficial site
about the Pyongyang Metro:
http://www.pyongyang-metro.com/index.html

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On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 17:20:51 +0000, Graeme Wall
wrote:

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"Brian Watson" wrote:

A contributor to The Robert Elms Show on BBC Radio London has just claimed
there are secret underground train lines between Buckingham Palace and
various other London sites.

Nifty conspiracy theory, or fact?


There are certainly tunnels connecting a large number of sites in Central
London but none of the maps I have access to show them connecting to Buck
House. Some of them are PO (now BT) cable tunnels and others connect the
various government 'citadels' under the various ministry buildings. However
to the best of my knowledge non are equipped with rails.

The usual source of these stories is that someone has heard of these tunnels
and also of the Post Office railway and put 2 and 2 together and made 5.


The Victoria Line passes under Buck House. I have heard stories of
there being an access for mergencies.

As to the story of evacuating the Royal Family in an emergency there are two
runways in Central London capable of taking an aircraft of the Queens Floght
assuming the latter still exists.


The Broad Walk in Kensington Gardens is the obvious one.
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In message , at
17:12:03 on Wed, 21 Feb 2007, Ben remarked:
In the past I have speculated that such a passage exists between the
palace grounds and Hyde Park Corner station. It is pure speculation,
based on the proximity (and the fact that no other stations are
anywhere near as close).


Wouldn't such a thing be common knowledge among the maintenance people
who walk the line, or are they well trained in not noticing things.


It wouldn't come out on the line, but behind some anonymous looking door
deep within the station. It could even be a storage room with another
door at the back, which few people working there enquire about.
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There could well be a small passageway between buck house and perhaps
the nearest tube station however. This sort of thing certainly isn't
unheard of.


Do you suppose any such passageway would have its own Oyster validator :-)


G.


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"Christopher A.Lee" wrote in message
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On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 17:20:51 +0000, Graeme Wall
wrote:

In message
"Brian Watson" wrote:

A contributor to The Robert Elms Show on BBC Radio London has just
claimed
there are secret underground train lines between Buckingham Palace and
various other London sites.

Nifty conspiracy theory, or fact?


There are certainly tunnels connecting a large number of sites in Central
London but none of the maps I have access to show them connecting to Buck
House. Some of them are PO (now BT) cable tunnels and others connect the
various government 'citadels' under the various ministry buildings.
However
to the best of my knowledge non are equipped with rails.

The usual source of these stories is that someone has heard of these
tunnels
and also of the Post Office railway and put 2 and 2 together and made 5.


The Victoria Line passes under Buck House. I have heard stories of
there being an access for mergencies.


Having been around when the Victoria line was being built I remember the
discussions in the Press of the time. The story was that the direct route
under Buck House was turned down and the line actually makes a big (and
expensive) curve around it. Phil is alleged to have said, " I'm not having
their bloody trains run under my house, thank you!"

Bill




As to the story of evacuating the Royal Family in an emergency there are
two
runways in Central London capable of taking an aircraft of the Queens
Floght
assuming the latter still exists.


The Broad Walk in Kensington Gardens is the obvious one.






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