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On Jun 27, 12:39 pm, Ian wrote:
On 27 Jun, 20:33, The Good Doctor wrote:

So Gordon is in No. 10 at last.


What changes will we see in transport policy, especially towards rail?


If oly we had an ex-civil servant who kept banging on about his inside
contacts here we might know better

My guess: much more PFI.

Ian


My guess: We have an anouncement on Crossrail soon.

Adrian

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On Jun 27, 10:04 pm, "Adrian Auer-Hudson, MIMIS"
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My guess: We have an anouncement on Crossrail soon.


It already has the government's full support - the current hurdle is
getting it through parliament, which isn't really something you can
announce. I don't think any progress can be made until there's been a
few months of consultation whatnot over the recent Woolwich changes.
The only thing Brown could announce is scrapping it.

The Thameslink Programme, on the other hand...

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On Jun 27, 10:04 pm, "Adrian Auer-Hudson, MIMIS"
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My guess: We have an anouncement on Crossrail soon.


It already has the government's full support - the current hurdle is
getting it through parliament, which isn't really something you can
announce. I don't think any progress can be made until there's been a
few months of consultation whatnot over the recent Woolwich changes.
The only thing Brown could announce is scrapping it.


That should lead to a few questions about rail policy differences between
Scotland and England - is it the Alloa - Kincardine route that goes through
or near Brown's constituency?

Paul


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"Paul Scott" wrote

That should lead to a few questions about rail policy differences between
Scotland and England - is it the Alloa - Kincardine route that goes

through
or near Brown's constituency?

AIUI not through, or even very close to his constituency - but by taking the
coal trains for Kincardine Power Station away from the Forth Bridge it
should improve the performance of the passenger trains which do serve
Kirkcaldy.

Peter


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AIUI not through, or even very close to his constituency - but by taking the
coal trains for Kincardine Power Station away from the Forth Bridge it
should improve the performance of the passenger trains which do serve
Kirkcaldy.

Peter


Are EWS et al still threatening to boycott the Alloa Line? For those
not aware, NR appear to be charging a premium for access to the line
for freight operators even though it isn't exactly a highly desirable
alternative routing for them. It might make more sense to charge a
premium for the bridge route.

As for discrepancies in transport policy between Westminster and
Holyrood, what of it exactly? The PM has no authority to alter the
way the Scots parliament chooses to spend it's allocation of funds.
If it appears to observers south of the border that transport projects
are getting more backing in Scotland than in England, then less money
will have to be spent on something else in England, as it is in
Scotland, in order to fund the rail network expansion.

You get ought for nought, it's all give and take, quid pro quo etc.
The M8 is a motorway?? Where?!?




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On 28 Jun, 00:50, David H wrote:
AIUI not through, or even very close to his constituency - but by taking the
coal trains for Kincardine Power Station away from the Forth Bridge it
should improve the performance of the passenger trains which do serve
Kirkcaldy.


Peter


Are EWS et al still threatening to boycott the Alloa Line? For those
not aware, NR appear to be charging a premium for access to the line
for freight operators even though it isn't exactly a highly desirable
alternative routing for them. It might make more sense to charge a
premium for the bridge route.

As for discrepancies in transport policy between Westminster and
Holyrood, what of it exactly? The PM has no authority to alter the
way the Scots parliament chooses to spend it's allocation of funds.
If it appears to observers south of the border that transport projects
are getting more backing in Scotland than in England, then less money
will have to be spent on something else in England, as it is in
Scotland, in order to fund the rail network expansion.

You get ought for nought, it's all give and take, quid pro quo etc.
The M8 is a motorway?? Where?!?


Quite. Perhaps more of England's money could be spent on English
projects, rather than being sent across the border to be spent on
Scottish projects. ;-)

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On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 22:23:04 +0100 someone who may be "Paul Scott"
wrote this:-

That should lead to a few questions about rail policy differences between
Scotland and England - is it the Alloa - Kincardine route that goes through
or near Brown's constituency?


The Stirling - Alloa - Kincardine line does not go particularly near
Mr Brown's constituency, or his former constituency. However, if EWS
can sort out the stupid tolling regime, which the Executive were
still talking of the last time I heard, then they will take their
coal trains away from the Forth Bridge, which is used by many people
in his constituency.



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On Jun 28, 2:26 am, (Colin Rosenstiel) wrote:
You're having a laugh surely? They have agreed no public funding at all.


Sorry, should have been clearer - I meant it has full support for
getting it past the current stage, and there's not a lot Brown could
do to expedite that.

U

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