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Buggy On Bus Discrimination Claim
"Neill" wrote in message
... When I was a child in the 1960's my mother hauled a pushchair on and off RM and RT buses, either on her own or probably with the help of the conductor. (Blimey, I'm starting to see Boris's point about buses here!). This was normal practice and no-one complained. My mother is hardly the largest or strongest person either. I also travelled in the guards compartment of trains as well, and can remember doing the same thing whne my sister was little in the early 1970's. Neill I seem to recall that the sign on an RT said something like " one folded pram may be placed under the stairs at the conductor's discretion". We all seemed to manage and there were many fewer cars then. You certainly couldn't push the smallest "vehicle" down the bus. That isn't to say that having space set aside for prams, wheelchairs etc is wrong, but there have to be limits and to raise it as "discrimination" seems a bit ridiculous. MaxB |
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"Batman55" wrote:
I seem to recall that the sign on an RT said something like " one folded pram may be placed under the stairs at the conductor's discretion". We all seemed to manage and there were many fewer cars then. People travelled less then, and were prepared to walk much further. So what was your point, exactly? |
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In message , Ian F.
writes I've often wondered why having procreated gives people the right to invade everyone else's space with their ridiculous means of child transport. Either use a foldaway buggy - and fold it up on a bus - or carry the brats. When I drove buses (70s) you either folded your buggy or pushchair or you didn't get on full stop. Further it went in the little luggage bay where the conductor stood, not in the seating area. -- Clive |
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"Clive" wrote in message
... When I drove buses (70s) you either folded your buggy or pushchair or you didn't get on full stop. Further it went in the little luggage bay where the conductor stood, not in the seating area. That was by far the best way, but I guess the layout of the new buses doesn't allow for that. What do the owners of these huge kiddie-carts do when there's someone in a wheelchair in 'their' space? Shove them out of the way? Ian |
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Mizter T wrote in
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/8021703.stm There's a few issues at play here. There does appear to be an expectation amongst a significant number of buggy-wielding bus users that they can - or should always be able to - get on a bus without folding the buggy up. This is daft - those with kids in buggies should be prepared to evict the little'un from said buggy and fold it up when getting on the bus. I reckon it's also fair to say that babies in prams should take priority over buggies - and of course wheelchair users take priority over both (there is enough space in most buses for a wheelchair and a buggy/pram though). they take up more than their fare share Hee ! But there needs to be an agreed protocol when a mother with a twin pushchair and three children gets on board and then another ! Plus when OAPs sitting on fold-up seats can be asked to move to make way for buggies and wheel chairs. Especially out in the sticks with one bus an hour. -- Mike D |
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In message , Tony Polson
writes People travelled less then, and were prepared to walk much further. While I would agree that people walked further, I would dispute that people travelled less per se. Certainly the vast majority of people travelled by public transport much more. -- Ian Jelf, MITG Birmingham, UK Registered Blue Badge Tourist Guide for London and the Heart of England http://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk |
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In message , at 18:37:09 on Tue,
28 Apr 2009, Ian Jelf remarked: People travelled less then, and were prepared to walk much further. While I would agree that people walked further, I would dispute that people travelled less per se. When I was growing up, a 50 mile trip from one side of London to the other [albeit by car] was something you'd plan on taking most of the day. Driving 150 miles to a holiday resort was a once-a-year thing. -- Roland Perry |
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On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 09:42:59 +0100, Ian Jelf wrote:
We travelled back from Valetta to Qawra one day on a crowded bus [1] where a child literally screamed his head off to the point where we were ready to do the same ourselves Why - didn't he stop screaming once his head had come off? |
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