In article , (Roland
Perry) wrote:

In message , at
10:16:09 on Thu, 25 Jun 2009, remarked:
Kings Cross - [lift from next year

It's two lifts - one up to the barrier level, then the current lift
to the surface (outdoors, far from the station). Or they are also
putting in a "three lifts" solution - an extra one between the
barrier level and concourse, then a choice of lifts to various
points at ground level.

Won't there be a route with lifts to the new Northern ticket hall?

Urgh. I was getting Northern and Piccadilly lines confused.

The lift from the Piccadilly (and also the Victoria) will emerge
into the passage between the Northern Ticket Hall and the old
Thameslink Station. (I discovered last week that the exit there has
limited opening hours).

In each case the lift will be quite short, bypassing a small flight
of stairs.

If you follow the passage north-west, it will eventually meet the
*bottom* of the main escalators down from the Northern ticket hall.

A long lift will by-pass those escalators, but only up as far as
the northern ticket barrier/concourse level. You'll need a third
short lift to get to ground level.

http://www.perry.co.uk/images/kx-com...with-lifts.jpg

Thanks.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

wrote on 25 June 2009 16:34:33 ...
In article
,
(John B) wrote:

It's possible that my brain was entirely frazzled by jetlag, but I'm
*sure* I was pleasantly surprised to find a direct lift from the Picc
platforms to the District platforms when changing at EC on a return
trip from Heathrow last year. If I'm wrong then Colin's closer to
right than I thought.

I can't think where that lift is then. I thought the lifts on the District
platforms only went up to the footbridge and the lift from the Piccadilly
was the modern version of the originals whose upper landing is at ticket
hall level.

That's correct. And just to clarify, the footbridge over the District
platforms is at ticket hall lavel.

--
Richard J.
(to email me, swap 'uk' and 'yon' in address)

MIG wrote in news:15d5c237-2cb0-4318-b6af-
:

On 25 June, 10:43, (Neil Williams)
wrote:
On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 10:22:12 +0100, Scott

wrote:
Thanks. *I take it Boris will organise a competition to choose a new
name then.

AIUI it will still be called the Circle Line.

I suggest Circle becomes Teacup, District becomes Saucer, Bakerloo
becomes Spoon ...

Making the entire Bakerloo line in Spoon will make the game interesting.

On 26 Jun 2009 06:32:50 GMT, James Farrar
wrote:

Making the entire Bakerloo line in Spoon will make the game interesting.

Wouldn't that make Rushton's Gambit illegal?

Guy
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In article ,
(Richard J.) wrote:

wrote on 25 June 2009 16:34:33 ...
In article
,
(John B) wrote:

It's possible that my brain was entirely frazzled by jetlag, but I'm
*sure* I was pleasantly surprised to find a direct lift from the
Picc platforms to the District platforms when changing at EC on a
return trip from Heathrow last year. If I'm wrong then Colin's
closer to right than I thought.

I can't think where that lift is then. I thought the lifts on the
District platforms only went up to the footbridge and the lift
from the Piccadilly was the modern version of the originals whose
upper landing is at ticket hall level.

That's correct. And just to clarify, the footbridge over the
District platforms is at ticket hall lavel.

So, as I thought, there is no remotely direct route from Piccadilly to
District platforms, then?

--
Colin Rosenstiel

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In article ,
(Richard J.) wrote:

wrote on 25 June 2009 16:34:33 ...
In article
,
(John B) wrote:

It's possible that my brain was entirely frazzled by jetlag, but
I'm *sure* I was pleasantly surprised to find a direct lift from
the Picc platforms to the District platforms when changing at EC
on a return trip from Heathrow last year. If I'm wrong then Colin's
closer to right than I thought.

I can't think where that lift is then. I thought the lifts on the
District platforms only went up to the footbridge and the lift
from the Piccadilly was the modern version of the originals whose
upper landing is at ticket hall level.

That's correct. And just to clarify, the footbridge over the
District platforms is at ticket hall lavel.

So, as I thought, there is no remotely direct route from Piccadilly to
District platforms, then?

Correct -- even the stairs-free route involves a fair amount of walking.
It's far better to change between the lines at Baron's Court (unless
travelling between the Wimbledon and Acton Town routes).

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(Recliner) wrote:

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In article ,
(Richard J.) wrote:

wrote on 25 June 2009 16:34:33 ...
In article
,
(John B) wrote:

It's possible that my brain was entirely frazzled by jetlag, but
I'm *sure* I was pleasantly surprised to find a direct lift from
the Picc platforms to the District platforms when changing at EC
on a return trip from Heathrow last year. If I'm wrong then Colin's
closer to right than I thought.

I can't think where that lift is then. I thought the lifts on the
District platforms only went up to the footbridge and the lift
from the Piccadilly was the modern version of the originals whose
upper landing is at ticket hall level.

That's correct. And just to clarify, the footbridge over the
District platforms is at ticket hall lavel.

So, as I thought, there is no remotely direct route from Piccadilly to
District platforms, then?

Correct -- even the stairs-free route involves a fair amount of
walking. It's far better to change between the lines at Baron's
Court (unless travelling between the Wimbledon and Acton Town routes).

I was specifically referring to journeys between East Putney and King's
Cross! Baron's Court is no use there.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

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(Recliner) wrote:

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In article ,
(Richard J.) wrote:

wrote on 25 June 2009 16:34:33 ...
In article
,
(John B) wrote:

It's possible that my brain was entirely frazzled by jetlag, but
I'm *sure* I was pleasantly surprised to find a direct lift from
the Picc platforms to the District platforms when changing at EC
on a return trip from Heathrow last year. If I'm wrong then
Colin's closer to right than I thought.

I can't think where that lift is then. I thought the lifts on the
District platforms only went up to the footbridge and the lift
from the Piccadilly was the modern version of the originals whose
upper landing is at ticket hall level.

That's correct. And just to clarify, the footbridge over the
District platforms is at ticket hall lavel.

So, as I thought, there is no remotely direct route from Piccadilly
to District platforms, then?

Correct -- even the stairs-free route involves a fair amount of
walking. It's far better to change between the lines at Baron's
Court (unless travelling between the Wimbledon and Acton Town
routes).

I was specifically referring to journeys between East Putney and
King's Cross! Baron's Court is no use there.

Ah, I'd lost track of that.

On 26 June, 12:44, wrote:
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(Recliner) wrote:
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In article ,
(Richard J.) wrote:

wrote on 25 June 2009 16:34:33 ...
In article
,
(John B) wrote:

It's possible that my brain was entirely frazzled by jetlag, but
I'm *sure* I was pleasantly surprised to find a direct lift from
the Picc platforms to the District platforms when changing at EC
on a return trip from Heathrow last year. If I'm wrong then Colin's
closer to right than I thought.

I can't think where that lift is then. I thought the lifts on the
District platforms only went up to the footbridge and the lift
from the Piccadilly was the modern version of the originals whose
upper landing is at ticket hall level.

That's correct. *And just to clarify, the footbridge over the
District platforms is at ticket hall lavel.

So, as I thought, there is no remotely direct route from Piccadilly to
District platforms, then?

Correct -- even the stairs-free route involves a fair amount of
walking. It's far better to change between the lines at Baron's
Court (unless travelling between the Wimbledon and Acton Town routes).

I was specifically referring to journeys between East Putney and King's
Cross! Baron's Court is no use there.

Go on to Edgware Road and stay in the train when it comes back, change
at Paddington, same-platform to Teacup to Kings Cross via Victoria and
Liverpool Street.

What could be more convenient?

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,
(MIG) wrote:

On 26 June, 12:44, wrote:
In article ,
(Recliner) wrote:
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In article ,
(Richard J.) wrote:

wrote on 25 June 2009 16:34:33 ...
In article
,
(John B) wrote:

It's possible that my brain was entirely frazzled by jetlag,
but I'm *sure* I was pleasantly surprised to find a direct
lift from the Picc platforms to the District platforms when
changing at EC on a return trip from Heathrow last year. If
I'm wrong then Colin's closer to right than I thought.

I can't think where that lift is then. I thought the lifts on
the District platforms only went up to the footbridge and the
lift from the Piccadilly was the modern version of the
originals whose upper landing is at ticket hall level.

That's correct. *And just to clarify, the footbridge over the
District platforms is at ticket hall lavel.

So, as I thought, there is no remotely direct route from
Piccadilly to District platforms, then?

Correct -- even the stairs-free route involves a fair amount of
walking. It's far better to change between the lines at Baron's
Court (unless travelling between the Wimbledon and Acton Town
routes).

I was specifically referring to journeys between East Putney and
King's Cross! Baron's Court is no use there.

Go on to Edgware Road and stay in the train when it comes back, change
at Paddington, same-platform to Teacup to Kings Cross via Victoria and
Liverpool Street.

What could be more convenient?

I think you've answered your own question there. Compare the journey times.

--
Colin Rosenstiel