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Anyway, obviously the concept of "correct road capacity" depends
strongly on lifestyle, and when designing a new town, one has a lot of
leeway to influence that.

Given that MK was built in the '60s heyday of "cars are our future!"
attitudes, the phrase ends up sounding like a nice way of saying "a vast
sprawling wasteland of concrete"; kind of like an american
auto-suburb....

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On Fri, 24 Jul 2009, Bruce wrote:

On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 19:57:16 +0900, Miles Bader wrote:
"John Salmon" writes:
Within Buckinghamshire I think it's [1] just Milton Keynes that's a
Unitary Authority, i.e. outside the administrative county but inside the
ceremonial (lord-lieutenancy) one.


Incidentally, it's entirely off-topic, but is Milton Keynes as horrid as
it sounds?


Milton Keynes is a lot nicer than people who don't know the place claim
it is. It is by far the most pleasant and most successful of the
postwar "New Towns", and is characterised by a combination of excellent
landscaping and some very good modern architecture.

My only significant criticism of the town (it is a city in all but name)
is that it was designed around the car, so public transport provision
could be better.


My only significant criticism is that the place is covered in crabapples.
Covered! Inches deep!

At least it was when i was there.

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On Sat, 25 Jul 2009, Miles Bader wrote:

1506 writes:

Incidentally, it's entirely off-topic, but is Milton Keynes as horrid as
it sounds?


Emphatically not! I have a friend who lives in Milton Keynes. He
tells me that when he moved there, it far exceeded his expectations.
That reflects what I had heard from others who have lived there.

Of particular note is that fact that the road system was designed with
the correct capacity for the population density. In the UK that is
hardly the norm.


So... kind of a mini-LA then?


More like a cross between 'Threads' and 'The Equalizer'.

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On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 13:39:02 +0100, Tom Anderson
wrote:

On Fri, 24 Jul 2009, Bruce wrote:

On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 19:57:16 +0900, Miles Bader wrote:
"John Salmon" writes:
Within Buckinghamshire I think it's [1] just Milton Keynes that's a
Unitary Authority, i.e. outside the administrative county but inside the
ceremonial (lord-lieutenancy) one.

Incidentally, it's entirely off-topic, but is Milton Keynes as horrid as
it sounds?


Milton Keynes is a lot nicer than people who don't know the place claim
it is. It is by far the most pleasant and most successful of the
postwar "New Towns", and is characterised by a combination of excellent
landscaping and some very good modern architecture.

My only significant criticism of the town (it is a city in all but name)
is that it was designed around the car, so public transport provision
could be better.


My only significant criticism is that the place is covered in crabapples.
Covered! Inches deep!

At least it was when i was there.



An entire city covered in crabapples to a depth of several inches?

Seems unlikely. Were you sober? ;-)

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Tom Anderson writes:
So... kind of a mini-LA then?


More like a cross between 'Threads' and 'The Equalizer'.


Soo..... a mini-LA.

With crabapples.

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On Sat, 25 Jul 2009, Bruce wrote:

On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 13:39:02 +0100, Tom Anderson
wrote:

On Fri, 24 Jul 2009, Bruce wrote:

On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 19:57:16 +0900, Miles Bader wrote:
"John Salmon" writes:
Within Buckinghamshire I think it's [1] just Milton Keynes that's a
Unitary Authority, i.e. outside the administrative county but inside the
ceremonial (lord-lieutenancy) one.

Incidentally, it's entirely off-topic, but is Milton Keynes as horrid as
it sounds?

Milton Keynes is a lot nicer than people who don't know the place claim
it is. It is by far the most pleasant and most successful of the
postwar "New Towns", and is characterised by a combination of excellent
landscaping and some very good modern architecture.

My only significant criticism of the town (it is a city in all but name)
is that it was designed around the car, so public transport provision
could be better.


My only significant criticism is that the place is covered in crabapples.
Covered! Inches deep!

At least it was when i was there.


An entire city covered in crabapples to a depth of several inches?


To be fair, the only bits i visited were canal towpaths.

Seems unlikely. Were you sober? ;-)


It is my policy to make no comment on this.

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On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 15:19:18 +0100, Tom Anderson
wrote:

On Sat, 25 Jul 2009, Bruce wrote:

On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 13:39:02 +0100, Tom Anderson
wrote:

On Fri, 24 Jul 2009, Bruce wrote:

On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 19:57:16 +0900, Miles Bader wrote:
"John Salmon" writes:
Within Buckinghamshire I think it's [1] just Milton Keynes that's a
Unitary Authority, i.e. outside the administrative county but inside the
ceremonial (lord-lieutenancy) one.

Incidentally, it's entirely off-topic, but is Milton Keynes as horrid as
it sounds?

Milton Keynes is a lot nicer than people who don't know the place claim
it is. It is by far the most pleasant and most successful of the
postwar "New Towns", and is characterised by a combination of excellent
landscaping and some very good modern architecture.

My only significant criticism of the town (it is a city in all but name)
is that it was designed around the car, so public transport provision
could be better.

My only significant criticism is that the place is covered in crabapples.
Covered! Inches deep!

At least it was when i was there.


An entire city covered in crabapples to a depth of several inches?


To be fair, the only bits i visited were canal towpaths.



So not statistically significant ...


Seems unlikely. Were you sober? ;-)


It is my policy to make no comment on this.



smile

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On Sat, 25 Jul 2009, Bruce wrote:

On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 15:19:18 +0100, Tom Anderson
wrote:

On Sat, 25 Jul 2009, Bruce wrote:

On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 13:39:02 +0100, Tom Anderson
wrote:

On Fri, 24 Jul 2009, Bruce wrote:

On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 19:57:16 +0900, Miles Bader wrote:
"John Salmon" writes:
Within Buckinghamshire I think it's [1] just Milton Keynes that's a
Unitary Authority, i.e. outside the administrative county but inside the
ceremonial (lord-lieutenancy) one.

Incidentally, it's entirely off-topic, but is Milton Keynes as horrid as
it sounds?

Milton Keynes is a lot nicer than people who don't know the place claim
it is. It is by far the most pleasant and most successful of the
postwar "New Towns", and is characterised by a combination of excellent
landscaping and some very good modern architecture.

My only significant criticism of the town (it is a city in all but name)
is that it was designed around the car, so public transport provision
could be better.

My only significant criticism is that the place is covered in crabapples.
Covered! Inches deep!

At least it was when i was there.

An entire city covered in crabapples to a depth of several inches?


To be fair, the only bits i visited were canal towpaths.


So not statistically significant ...


I didn't take measurements while i was there, but going from memory, i
would say that the mean depth of crabapples was 2.1 inches, with a
standard deviation of 0.4 inches. So to P 0.05, Milton Keynes is covered
in crabapples. Happy?

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On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 10:46:17 +0100, Tom Anderson
wrote:

On Sat, 25 Jul 2009, Bruce wrote:

On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 15:19:18 +0100, Tom Anderson
wrote:

On Sat, 25 Jul 2009, Bruce wrote:

On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 13:39:02 +0100, Tom Anderson
wrote:

On Fri, 24 Jul 2009, Bruce wrote:

On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 19:57:16 +0900, Miles Bader wrote:
"John Salmon" writes:
Within Buckinghamshire I think it's [1] just Milton Keynes that's a
Unitary Authority, i.e. outside the administrative county but inside the
ceremonial (lord-lieutenancy) one.

Incidentally, it's entirely off-topic, but is Milton Keynes as horrid as
it sounds?

Milton Keynes is a lot nicer than people who don't know the place claim
it is. It is by far the most pleasant and most successful of the
postwar "New Towns", and is characterised by a combination of excellent
landscaping and some very good modern architecture.

My only significant criticism of the town (it is a city in all but name)
is that it was designed around the car, so public transport provision
could be better.

My only significant criticism is that the place is covered in crabapples.
Covered! Inches deep!

At least it was when i was there.

An entire city covered in crabapples to a depth of several inches?

To be fair, the only bits i visited were canal towpaths.


So not statistically significant ...


I didn't take measurements while i was there, but going from memory, i
would say that the mean depth of crabapples was 2.1 inches, with a
standard deviation of 0.4 inches. So to P 0.05, Milton Keynes is covered
in crabapples. Happy?



Delirious. ;-)

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Bruce wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 10:46:17 +0100, Tom Anderson
wrote:

On Sat, 25 Jul 2009, Bruce wrote:

On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 15:19:18 +0100, Tom Anderson
wrote:

On Sat, 25 Jul 2009, Bruce wrote:

On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 13:39:02 +0100, Tom Anderson
wrote:

My only significant criticism is that the place is covered in
crabapples. Covered! Inches deep!

At least it was when i was there.

An entire city covered in crabapples to a depth of several inches?

To be fair, the only bits i visited were canal towpaths.

So not statistically significant ...


I didn't take measurements while i was there, but going from memory,
i would say that the mean depth of crabapples was 2.1 inches, with a
standard deviation of 0.4 inches. So to P 0.05, Milton Keynes is
covered in crabapples. Happy?


Delirious. ;-)


Golden Delirious?




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