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Epping - Ongar Railway Now Open
On Jun 5, 10:24*am, The Real Doctor wrote:
On 02/06/12 19:02, SB wrote: Then at North Weald there is an option of a diesel shuttle into Epping Forest. Or a steam hauled trip to Ongar and back. As a matter of interest, why two train sets on each side of North Weald and not end-to-end trains? Some issue with steam in the forest? Ian I'm not connected with the railway but the impression I gained is that the plan is to run steam trains NW - Ongar since there will be run- round facilities at both ends, with a DMU shuttle at the Epping end where it's just a single line. On the opening weekend, the loop at Ongar was not ready. |
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Epping - Ongar Railway Now Open
On Jun 5, 11:36*pm, Roger Carpenter wrote:
On Jun 5, 10:24*am, The Real Doctor wrote: On 02/06/12 19:02, SB wrote: Then at North Weald there is an option of a diesel shuttle into Epping Forest. Or a steam hauled trip to Ongar and back. As a matter of interest, why two train sets on each side of North Weald and not end-to-end trains? Some issue with steam in the forest? Ian I'm not connected with the railway but the impression I gained is that the plan is to run steam trains NW - Ongar since there will be run- round facilities at both ends, with a DMU shuttle at the Epping end where it's just a single line. On the opening weekend, the loop at Ongar was not ready. I'm a Member, I couldn't volunteer this weekend due to other commitments, but I hope to start soon! |
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Epping - Ongar Railway Now Open
On Jun 5, 11:33*am, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 10:24:54 on Tue, 5 Jun 2012, The Real Doctor remarked: Then at North Weald there is an option of a diesel shuttle into Epping Forest. Or a steam hauled trip to Ongar and back. As a matter of interest, why two train sets on each side of North Weald and not end-to-end trains? Some issue with steam in the forest? Clearance under the M11 bridge? Epping to Ongar would have been the perfect line for preserved 1938 and Standard tube trains. I know Electricity, Elfin Safety. There are US preserved Trolley Lines with 600v DC overhead. |
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On Jun 6, 1:07*pm, 77002 wrote:
On Jun 5, 11:33*am, Roland Perry wrote: In message , at 10:24:54 on Tue, 5 Jun 2012, The Real Doctor remarked: Then at North Weald there is an option of a diesel shuttle into Epping Forest. Or a steam hauled trip to Ongar and back. As a matter of interest, why two train sets on each side of North Weald and not end-to-end trains? Some issue with steam in the forest? Clearance under the M11 bridge? Epping to Ongar would have been the perfect line for preserved 1938 and Standard tube trains. *I know Electricity, Elfin Safety. *There are US preserved Trolley Lines with 600v DC overhead. Has anyone seen the rusty tube loco. wreck outside Epping Station? It looks like a long abandoned battery loco. Surprised the scrap metal wallas haven't had it. Its been there for years. Apparently its been offered to EOR but they don't want it. CJB. |
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On Wed, 6 Jun 2012 05:14:10 -0700 (PDT), CJB
wrote: On Jun 6, 1:07*pm, 77002 wrote: On Jun 5, 11:33*am, Roland Perry wrote: In message , at 10:24:54 on Tue, 5 Jun 2012, The Real Doctor remarked: Then at North Weald there is an option of a diesel shuttle into Epping Forest. Or a steam hauled trip to Ongar and back. As a matter of interest, why two train sets on each side of North Weald and not end-to-end trains? Some issue with steam in the forest? Clearance under the M11 bridge? Epping to Ongar would have been the perfect line for preserved 1938 and Standard tube trains. *I know Electricity, Elfin Safety. *There are US preserved Trolley Lines with 600v DC overhead. Has anyone seen the rusty tube loco. wreck outside Epping Station? It looks like a long abandoned battery loco. Surprised the scrap metal wallas haven't had it. Its been there for years. Apparently its been offered to EOR but they don't want it. From what I've read, EOR harks back to the line's origins as a steam railway, and ignores its temporary status as an electrified Tube line. So any Tube memorabilia would have limited or no relevance. |
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Epping - Ongar Railway Now Open
In message , Recliner
writes From what I've read, EOR harks back to the line's origins as a steam railway, and ignores its temporary status as an electrified Tube line. So any Tube memorabilia would have limited or no relevance. And to think that when I was at Hainault I used to work on that shuttle, but both intermediate stations were open then. -- Clive |
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Epping - Ongar Railway Now Open
On Jun 6, 1:44*pm, Clive wrote:
In message , Recliner writesFrom what I've read, EOR harks back to the line's origins as a steam railway, and ignores its temporary status as an electrified Tube line. So any Tube memorabilia would have limited or no relevance. And to think that when I was at Hainault I used to work on that shuttle, but both intermediate stations were open then. The UK has countless preserved railways that reflect steam in the 20s/ 30s/40s/50s. It would be so good to have a line doing something different. A line with preserved tube trains at the end of an active tube line would be special. Keep in mind that in the early tube years the route to Ongar had electric passenger trains, and steam freight trains. Their line, their choices I guess. |
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Epping - Ongar Railway Now Open
On 2012\06\06 13:07, 77002 wrote:
On Jun 5, 11:33 am, Roland wrote: In , at 10:24:54 on Tue, 5 Jun 2012, The Real remarked: Then at North Weald there is an option of a diesel shuttle into Epping Forest. Or a steam hauled trip to Ongar and back. As a matter of interest, why two train sets on each side of North Weald and not end-to-end trains? Some issue with steam in the forest? Clearance under the M11 bridge? Epping to Ongar would have been the perfect line for preserved 1938 and Standard tube trains. Of course not, it's the middle of nowhere, and Tube stock only makes sense in a Tube. The Aldwych branch (accessed from Holborn only) would be much better. Even the abandoned Thameslink tunnels from Barbican to Moorgate would be a better place for preserved Tube stock than a field in Essex. |
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Epping - Ongar Railway Now Open
In message , at 15:15:04 on
Wed, 6 Jun 2012, Basil Jet remarked: Epping to Ongar would have been the perfect line for preserved 1938 and Standard tube trains. Of course not, it's the middle of nowhere, and Tube stock only makes sense in a Tube. Or on a line leading from London to the "Secret" Nuclear bunker. The Aldwych branch (accessed from Holborn only) would be much better. Even the abandoned Thameslink tunnels from Barbican to Moorgate would be a better place for preserved Tube stock than a field in Essex. For a museum, I agree, although neither of those is much good for giving rides on the trains. -- Roland Perry |
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Epping - Ongar Railway Now Open
On Jun 6, 3:15*pm, Basil Jet wrote:
On 2012\06\06 13:07, 77002 wrote: On Jun 5, 11:33 am, Roland *wrote: In , at 10:24:54 on Tue, 5 Jun 2012, The Real *remarked: Then at North Weald there is an option of a diesel shuttle into Epping Forest. Or a steam hauled trip to Ongar and back. As a matter of interest, why two train sets on each side of North Weald and not end-to-end trains? Some issue with steam in the forest? Clearance under the M11 bridge? Epping to Ongar would have been the perfect line for preserved 1938 and Standard tube trains. Of course not, it's the middle of nowhere, and Tube stock only makes sense in a Tube. The Aldwych branch (accessed from Holborn only) would be much better. Even the abandoned Thameslink tunnels from Barbican to Moorgate would be a better place for preserved Tube stock than a field in Essex. Come on Basil, the Thameslink tunnels would not look right. The platforms are too high and the tunnels are too big. The Aldwych Branch, with Aldwych Station re-opend by preservationists would be perfect. But, we both know that is not going to happen. The Ongar Branch is the next best thing. |
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