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Michael Hoffman wrote:
k wrote:

I use DD MMM which also cannot be misinterpreted.



Unless you speak a language where the months have different names.
Then you will just be extremely confused.


Untrue. Most people who are likely to be in this position (e.g. using the
Internet, working for an international company) speak some form of English
to some extent and so will have some familiarity with English month names.

Also, with no knowledge of the language involved it is inherent that 01xyz
is in DDMMM format and so I can try and find out what xyz is in my
language. 0102 has no no inherent format.


Whereas YYYY MM DD is very easily worked out by people who use any language
and the western calender.



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TheOneKEA wrote to uk.transport.london on Mon, 7 Feb 2005:

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TheOneKEA wrote to uk.transport.london on Mon, 7 Feb 2005:
Last I checked, Thameslink doesn't serve Moorgate GN&C, WA does.

I think you'll find there were rush hour services until the blockade
started.


*cough*

I said Moorgate _GN&C_ - Greant Northern & City, the underground NR
platforms. The subsurface NR platforms were indeed served by
Thameslink, but were originally part of the Met.

Oh, I see. I have never been there, so wouldn't know.


Never been to Moorgate? Obviously you had a deprived childhood?


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Oh, I see. I have never been there, so wouldn't know.


Never been to Moorgate? Obviously you had a deprived childhood?


Definitely - I grew up in the country and "London" was really only
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On Tue, 8 Feb 2005, Brimstone wrote:

"Stephen Osborn" wrote in message
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Michael Hoffman wrote:
k wrote:

I use DD MMM which also cannot be misinterpreted.

Unless you speak a language where the months have different names.
Then you will just be extremely confused.


Untrue. Most people who are likely to be in this position (e.g. using
the Internet, working for an international company) speak some form of
English to some extent and so will have some familiarity with English
month names.

Also, with no knowledge of the language involved it is inherent that
01xyz is in DDMMM format and so I can try and find out what xyz is in
my language. 0102 has no no inherent format.


Whereas YYYY MM DD is very easily worked out by people who use any
language and the western calender.


It's also an ISO standard, ISO 8601:

http://www.iso.org/iso/en/prods-serv...esandtime.html

Therefore, if you do not use it, UN black helicopters will come in the
night and take you away.

Incidentally, the ISO wants you to separate the elements with dashes and
to zero-pad, as in 2005-02-08.

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On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 13:35:19 +0000 (UTC), "Brimstone"
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Whereas YYYY MM DD is very easily worked out by people who use any language
and the western calender.


Assuming you include the separators, which I did, and conventionally
for that format is the - character.

If not, it could mean two things in certain situations, and three in
others (depending on the year).

2004-02-01 fairly unambiguously means the 1st February 2004, as the
separation is clear, and I've never encountered anyone who used
YYYY-DD-MM that I can recall.

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Neil Williams ) gurgled happily, sounding
much like they were saying :

I've never encountered anyone who used
YYYY-DD-MM that I can recall.


I've never come across any non-merkin who insisted on using MM DD YYYY,
either. But here we are.
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On Tue, 08 Feb 2005 11:57:05 +0000, Michael Hoffman
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k wrote:
I use DD MMM which also cannot be misinterpreted.


Unless you speak a language where the months have different names.
Then you will just be extremely confused.


I don't. I speak English. Although our company has offices
throughout the world the "official" language is English. (As its an
American company it would be, after all "everyone speaks English
(American) don't they? :-))

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In article , k wrote:
On Tue, 08 Feb 2005 11:57:05 +0000, Michael Hoffman
wrote:

k wrote:
I use DD MMM which also cannot be misinterpreted.


Unless you speak a language where the months have different names.
Then you will just be extremely confused.


I don't. I speak English. Although our company has offices
throughout the world the "official" language is English. (As its an
American company it would be, after all "everyone speaks English
(American) don't they? :-))


Well, Ericsson, a Swedish-based and -owned multinational, also uses
English as its official language. So I think in practice, in the
business world, everyone really *does* speak English.

Similarly, I've just accepted a job with a small Stockholm-based company
95% staffed by Swedes and 100% owned by them (if I recall); its official
language is also English.

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In article , k wrote:
On Tue, 08 Feb 2005 11:57:05 +0000, Michael Hoffman
wrote:

k wrote:
I use DD MMM which also cannot be misinterpreted.

Unless you speak a language where the months have different names.
Then you will just be extremely confused.


I don't. I speak English. Although our company has offices
throughout the world the "official" language is English. (As its an
American company it would be, after all "everyone speaks English
(American) don't they? :-))


Well, Ericsson, a Swedish-based and -owned multinational, also uses
English as its official language. So I think in practice, in the
business world, everyone really *does* speak English.

Similarly, I've just accepted a job with a small Stockholm-based company
95% staffed by Swedes and 100% owned by them (if I recall); its official
language is also English.


But which version of English? Americans claim to speak Englsih, but insist
on deviating from the original.


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In message , at 08:58:14 on Wed, 9
Feb 2005, Brimstone remarked:
But which version of English? Americans claim to speak Englsih, but insist
on deviating from the original.


Oddly enough, it's British English which has deviated from the original,
while American English has stagnated.
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