"notbresson" wrote in message Perhaps
you'll find that none of them are ever told to walk Down
Street Siding, which is said to continue to Buckingham Palace.

just had a look at Heapey on Google Earth - doesn't seem to have been
messed with?

53 40' 39.82" N
2 35' 34.56" W

steveb
It's a secret.

I once had a Budgie land on my Fishing Rod while fishing Heapey #6 Lodge.
It flew off when I tried to catch it in the net.
--
Ken Ward

"Society for the production of Maritime Reefs using MerseyRail 142's"
(For membership email... )

On 21 Feb, 14:51, "Neillw001" wrote:

There's also a branch that runs out to Chequers and onward to connect
with Corsham and the secret Trans-Atlantic supersonic highspeed rail
tunnel built using reverse-engineered alien technology. Some bloke I
met in a pub told me where you see a vent shaft from that on Google
Earth just before it goes under the sea near Weston-Super-Mare, but
I've forgotten the exact location.

Some of this sort of stuff at:

http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/cosmicrudloe.html

--
gordon

In message
Christopher A.Lee wrote:

On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 17:20:51 +0000, Graeme Wall
wrote:

In message
"Brian Watson" wrote:

A contributor to The Robert Elms Show on BBC Radio London has just
claimed there are secret underground train lines between Buckingham
Palace and various other London sites.

Nifty conspiracy theory, or fact?


There are certainly tunnels connecting a large number of sites in Central
London but none of the maps I have access to show them connecting to Buck
House. Some of them are PO (now BT) cable tunnels and others connect the
various government 'citadels' under the various ministry buildings.
However to the best of my knowledge non are equipped with rails.

The usual source of these stories is that someone has heard of these
tunnels and also of the Post Office railway and put 2 and 2 together and
made 5.

The Victoria Line passes under Buck House. I have heard stories of there
being an access for mergencies.

Not as far as I know, but then anything is possible.


As to the story of evacuating the Royal Family in an emergency there are
two runways in Central London capable of taking an aircraft of the Queens
Floght assuming the latter still exists.

The Broad Walk in Kensington Gardens is the obvious one.

But not one of the 'official' ones. (for some value of official).
Irrelevant now as I believe helos are the preferred option now,

--
Graeme Wall
This address is not read, substitute trains for rail.
Transport Miscellany at http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail/index.html

In message .com
"MIG" wrote:

[snip]

However I wonder whether it is true. If you take a look at the
Victoria line's route as marked on the central London bus map then it
is shown as passing under the Buck House garden but not the building
itself - this makes sense as the line needs to turn so as to be
aligned to run southeast from Victoria station towards Pimlico and
Vauxhall.
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/buses/pdfdocs/centlond.pdf



I think the alignments in the bus maps bear little relation to the
geography. They are just showing that an Underground line links the
places. Look how they've drawn the Bakerloo, which we know exactly
follows all the kinks of Haymarket and Regent Street.

I've got no opinion on where the Victoria line goes though.


There are maps available that show the actual geographic routes of the
various UndergrounD lines. Mine for the Victoria is in a booklet produced at
the time the line was opened. It does show the line passing close to the
left hand end of the building though not physically under it. How accurate
the map is I leave to the conspiracy theorists to argue about.

--
Graeme Wall
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Transport Miscellany at http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail/index.html

In message
"Clive Coleman." wrote:

In message .com, MIG
writes
Look how they've drawn the Bakerloo, which we know exactly
follows all the kinks of Haymarket and Regent Street.

I've got no opinion on where the Victoria line goes though.
I remember this item when the Victoria line was being built. It was
said that to compensate all the home owners for subsidence if anything
happened was so great that the roads were followed and houses were not
run under,

The other reason was that the legal situation of running under private
property was unclear when the early lines were built. To avoid potential law
suits the lines followed the roads.

but when the Vic. Line was built such was the cost that the
situation had reversed and it was cheaper to pay a subsidence bill than
follow street plans.

More to the point, the Victoria line was deep enough that subsidence was not
though to be a problem. Also the legal situation had been clarified. ie you
don't own the land under your property, unlike the USA. This enables the
Government to sell off the mineral rights.

--
Graeme Wall
This address is not read, substitute trains for rail.
Transport Miscellany at http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail/index.html

In message .com
"Mizter T" wrote:

On 21 Feb, 19:39, "Mizter T" wrote:
On 21 Feb, 18:22, "Bill Again" wrote:

"Christopher A.Lee" wrote in message
.. .

On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 17:20:51 +0000, Graeme Wall
wrote:

(snip)

As to the story of evacuating the Royal Family in an emergency
there are two runways in Central London capable of taking an
aircraft of the Queens Floght assuming the latter still exists.

The Broad Walk in Kensington Gardens is the obvious one.

I wonder if that's one of the two that Christopher has in mind -
perhaps he might share his thoughts with us...


I should of course have addressed that question towards Graeme, not
Christopher, as it was he who posed the notion that there are two
central London runways already.


The Mall and Hyde Park, according to Duncan Campbell in War Plan UK. Mind
you I wouldn't want to be landing in the Mall with a crosswind.

--
Graeme Wall
This address is not read, substitute trains for rail.
Transport Miscellany at http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail/index.html

On Feb 21, 11:38 pm, Graeme Wall wrote:
In message
"Clive Coleman." wrote:

In message .com, MIG
writes
Look how they've drawn the Bakerloo, which we know exactly
follows all the kinks of Haymarket and Regent Street.

I've got no opinion on where the Victoria line goes though.
I remember this item when the Victoria line was being built. It was
said that to compensate all the home owners for subsidence if anything
happened was so great that the roads were followed and houses were not
run under,

The other reason was that the legal situation of running under private
property was unclear when the early lines were built. To avoid potential law
suits the lines followed the roads.

but when the Vic. Line was built such was the cost that the
situation had reversed and it was cheaper to pay a subsidence bill than
follow street plans.

More to the point, the Victoria line was deep enough that subsidence was not
though to be a problem. Also the legal situation had been clarified. ie you
don't own the land under your property, unlike the USA. This enables the
Government to sell off the mineral rights.


The Victoria is not generally deeper than other lines, more the
opposite, although it does go up and down a lot. At Oxford Circus,
the Victoria and Bakerloo go over the Central, and then the northbound
Victoria actually seems to go over the Bakerloo before diving miles
down to go under the Northern at Warren Street, which itself goes
under the Central at Tottenham Court Road.

The Victoria goes over the Northern and Piccadilly at Kings Cross and
goes over the Picadilly and Jubilee at Green Park and goes under the
Northern at Stockwell.

At Finsbury Park it's barely below ground.

"Graeme Wall" wrote in message
...
In message .com
"Mizter T" wrote:
....
I should of course have addressed that question towards Graeme, not
Christopher, as it was he who posed the notion that there are two
central London runways already.

The Mall and Hyde Park, according to Duncan Campbell in War Plan UK. Mind
you I wouldn't want to be landing in the Mall with a crosswind.

Isn't that why The Mall is laid out East-West, in the direction of the
prevailing winds? :-)
--
David Biddulph

In message , asdf
writes

Down Street is nearer, and also benefits from not having passengers or
maintenance staff poking about.

Wouldn't such a thing be common knowledge among the maintenance people
who walk the line, or are they well trained in not noticing things.

Perhaps you'll find that none of them are ever told to walk Down
Street Siding, which is said to continue to Buckingham Palace.

Nah it doesn't - it ends up at Hyde Park Corner reversing crossover.
Standard way out if you have to stable a train there.
--
Steve Fitzgerald has now left the building.
You will find him in London's Docklands, E16, UK
(please use the reply to address for email)

On 22 Feb, 02:00, "Mizter T" wrote:
Brian Watson wrote:
A contributor to The Robert Elms Show on BBC Radio London has just claimed
there are secret underground train lines between Buckingham Palace and
various other London sites.

Nifty conspiracy theory, or fact?

--
Brian

I heard a bit of this whilst out for a jog this afternoon - if anyone
wants to listen again for the next week they can do so by following
this link:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/netwo...l?london/rober...

I've heard plenty of good stuff about London on Robert Elms' show when
I've tuned in, but the stories about secret Underground railways that
featured on this particular show was not good stuff, it was all a load
of cobblers!

There are undoubtedly some quasi-secret tunnels and installations in
London - for example the "Q-Whitehall" facility and "PINDAR" [1] - and
there are quite possibly a number of others - but there's no secret
Underground railway lines!

More about the aforementioned underground installations on Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_citadels_under_London

If you want to read about a Metro system that quite possibly does have
a secret line, as well as a supposed dual-purpose so it serves as a
link between military facilities, take a look at this unofficial site
about the Pyongyang Metro:
http://www.pyongyang-metro.com/index.html


That pyongyang link is interesting, thanks.

As for all the conspiracy nutters, this was all being bandied about on
the other forum. I still believe in the box tunnel though. Most
interesting thread.