Boltar wrote:
On Nov 23, 2:48 pm, Ian Jelf wrote:
Has anyone been to the London Transport Museum since it re-opened?

I went into the shop. Not impressed , lots of tourist tat but no books
at all, not even about the tube , never mind general railway books
like they used to have. Theres definately been a dumbing down.

Did you find the upstairs bit?

As an aside, Motor Books has recently moved, which confused me until I
saw the large sign saying it was now one street away.
--
Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK

Mark Brader wrote:
Tom Anderson writes:
But do they take Oyster?

You may think you're joking, but at the New York Transit Museum --
possibly back when it was called the Transit Exhibit -- they used to
take subway tokens for admission.

The DB museum in Nuremberg took InterRail when I went in 2003, as do/did
a few other railway museums.

Being born in September, it used to annoy me when I had to pay full
price for various museums and things in my last year of compulsory
education, while friends from the same class got in cheap. It also used
to seem a bit odd that sixth-formers generally paid full price for
things, but university students didn't (my school tried to con people
into paying for a student ID card, which a close approximation to
absolutely nowhere accepted because it wasn't NUS).
--
Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK

On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 19:22:09 +0000, Paul Corfield
wrote:

On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 19:00:05 -0000, (Mark Brader) wrote:

Tom Anderson writes:
But do they take Oyster?

You may think you're joking, but at the New York Transit Museum --
possibly back when it was called the Transit Exhibit -- they used to
take subway tokens for admission.

Indeed. I have a rather wonderful tie pin with a NYC token on it
purchased from the Transit Museum. Is it still in Brooklyn or has it
moved?

It's still in Brooklyn; it also opens silly hours!

(And that reminds me, I haven't seen David of Broadway around for a
while...)

On Nov 23, 8:14�pm, wrote:
Is it true there are now only 4 buses left inside? More room for taxis
and sedan chairs perhaps rather than an RT-family type which was
familiar for 50-odd years? (But is no doubt deemed to look the "same"
as an RM.)

Ominously the Evening Standard praised the LTM as having lost its
"anorak" atmosphere so I for one fear the worst!

I hope it's not all hands-on/activity kid's stuff, "world cities" and
"inclusion" etc....

You can't be serious - no RT-type in the new museum??? The bus that
was synonymous with L.T. for almost as long as the much-mourned
Routemaster. A museum that doesn't have room for that icon is surely
not worthy of the name "London Transport Museum". Better go back to
the old name......


Marc.

Richard J. wrote:
John Rowland wrote:
Ian Jelf wrote:
Has anyone been to the London Transport Museum since it re-opened?

I'm having an unusually long period of Not Being In London and won't
be able to visit until Wednesday. I wonder if anyone has any
positive (or otherwise!) Things to say about what we have to see for
two years of closure?

Most of the people who have seen it have been disappointed.

How do you know?

You got me. I should have said "All the people I know who have been in it
were disappointed."

In message , Paul Corfield
writes

Not yet. I haven't even managed to get to the shop this week. I've not
had any feedback one way or the other as to how good or bad the museum
is.

I'm more disappointed that I was lazy enough to fail to get the
motorised model of the Croydon tram when it came out - all sold out now


I am tasked with organizing a visit for members of another usenet group
who wish to visit it. That won't be until the New Year.

I wonder who that is then?
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You will find him in London's Docklands, E16, UK
(please use the reply to address for email)

More to the point, has a London Overground Handbook been produced yet?

On 23 Nov, 14:48, Ian Jelf wrote:
Has anyone been to the London Transport Museum since it re-opened?

I'm having an unusually long period of Not Being In London and won't be
able to visit until Wednesday. I wonder if anyone has any positive (or
otherwise!) Things to say about what we have to see for two years of
closure?

I went this afternoon. A few observations:
- There is an Oyster pad on the ticket counter. I didn't ask about
using it. Freedom passes get you free entry which might be what it's
for.
- They send you up to the second floor first where the horse drawn
buses are. There's a promising attempt here to put things in
chronological order and actually tell the story. But there's a weird
narrow passageway down the side of this bit covering early railway
history which is really easy to miss. No idea what the thinking is,
but the exhibit itself is good.
- The mezzanine floor is basically unchanged, but the signs saying
what things are have been replaced with touchscreen kiosks, which are
great but why not have signs too?
- The ground floor is the same confused mess of a handful of random
buses and half arsed exhibits. There are far fewer vehicles and more
gallery type things, but they still haven't figured out how to present
this stuff well.
- They have one side of one section of the 2009 stock mockup, which is
a bit pointless.
- The centrepiece giant projection map is mindnumbingly dull.
- There's an excellent animated tube map by year behind the 1938
stock.
- The buses are a B type, a trolleybus, an RM, something 80s, an old
Green Line, and the front four feet of a modern double decker. Can't
be more specific (see why they need nice big signs with the names of
things?)
- There's a mockup Jubilee/Northern cab with BVE inside (or so said
the error messages, as it was broken).

So still a bit rubbish. Highlight for me was spending some time in the
little reading library with the legendary Rails Through The Clay
(complete with photos of the hoardings for Enfield West and
Nightingale Lane tube stations).

U

On Fri, 23 Nov 2007, Mark Brader wrote:

Tom Anderson writes:

But do they take Oyster?

You may think you're joking,

I wasn't! It would be easy enough to do, i'd have thought, and a good
wheeze.

tom

--
Beware! Inside pie, there are chickens, gamecubes, Moltres, Raichu,
and bacteria(in a good way!) -- Wikipedia

In article
,
(Mr Thant) wrote:

Highlight for me was spending some time in the
little reading library with the legendary Rails Through The Clay
(complete with photos of the hoardings for Enfield West and
Nightingale Lane tube stations).

Nightingale Lane tube station? Huh?

--
Colin Rosenstiel