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![]() On 17 Dec, 12:29, David Cantrell wrote: On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 09:11:43AM -0800, Mizter T wrote: However one thing that's worth bearing in mind is that Oyster-derived usage data is used by TfL to assess demand and ridership on the bus network Ahhh, so *that* explains why TfL don't seem to care about people in south London - because fewer of us have Oyster cards (instead we have proper paper travelcards bought at railway stations), we can't be counted. I would think that TfL are well aware of the potential pitfalls on over-reliance on Oyster derived travel data and thus take this into account. As Barry Salter said earlier, those with paper season Travelcards are sometimes asked to complete a travel diary (though perhaps this is only for those with monthlies or longer) - as he said sometimes given out at stations and they also sent by post to people who hold such tickets (the incentive is something like a gift token or being entered into a prize draw or the like). Me thinks TfL do care about people in south London, the basic problem is that rail services south of the Thames are not their responsibility, though they do have an input into them (and have spent lots of money on them - lots of station upgrades have been at least partially financed by TfL money). And of course the old Mayor would have been quite happy to get his hands on as much of the suburban rail network south of the river as possible and run it as a London Overground style service - in particular there were hopes that the Southern Metro services might get transferred to TfL. That was not to be, but many of the improvements that the new Southern franchise promises - in particular more staff at stations and the refurbishment or modernisation of said stations - were likely the result of heavy lobbying of DfT Rail by TfL and the then Mayor. -- David Cantrell | Godless Liberal Elitist I'm curious as to whether that's how you introduce yourself at parties? ![]() |
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