In article ,
Roland Perry wrote:


But that's not the point. It's their collateral damage which people are
worried about.

No - it's just pathetic political posturing .

E.

In article ,
"Just zis Guy, you know?" wrote:

Presumably this is because every time a cyclist tries to talk to her
she stuffs her fingers in her ears and chants "laa laa laa I'm not
listening". Whatever good they may be outside the city centre, in
cramped and narrow streets they are an absolute bloody nightmare.

The main danger to cyclists are lorries, not buses, as at least three
ghost bikes near where I live sadly testify.

E.

On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:10:32 +0100, eastender
wrote:

The main danger to cyclists are lorries, not buses, as at least three
ghost bikes near where I live sadly testify.

I know that, and I know how to avoid most of the problem, but tat
doesn't change the fact that bendy buses are uniquely unpleasant
things with which to share the road. 18m long, surprisingly rapid
acceleration, and especially the way the articulation works so that if
the driver cuts in too early you end up with the arse end coming
towards you at speed and nowhere to go. I hate them. I might hate
them less if the drivers could bring themselves to wait if there's a
cyclist part way past before they start off, but they don't. There is
no really safe way to get past one of those buggers.

My friend Mr Larrington describes them as a work of Stan, and I
completely agree.

Guy
--
http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

eastender wrote:

The main danger to cyclists are lorries, not buses, as at
least three ghost bikes near where I live sadly testify.

So that's what those white bikes are!
http://www.ghostbikes.org/london

Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:

My friend Mr Larrington describes them as a work of Stan, and I
completely agree.

Not Stanley but Livingstone, I presume.

On 27 July, 22:07, eastender wrote:
In article ,
*Roland Perry wrote:

But that's not the point. It's their collateral damage which people are
worried about.

No - it's just pathetic political posturing .


Politics is only brought into it to dismiss any genuine preferences
people have for one type of bus or another.

For godsake, can't we give that one a rest? The discussion started
long before the idiot Boris picked up on it, and bendy buses will
probably be around longer than he is.

On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:25:38 +0100, "Basil Jet"
wrote:

My friend Mr Larrington describes them as a work of Stan, and I
completely agree.

Not Stanley but Livingstone, I presume.

Example:
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.rec.cycling/msg/5b86c6a07ec7955e?hl=en

Edmonton is the tenth circle of Hell (obviously).

Guy
--
http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:23:03 +0100, "Basil Jet"
wrote:

So that's what those white bikes are!
http://www.ghostbikes.org/london

Yup. And just for once TfL are doing a decent job of trying to fix
the problem (though without going so far as to rip out the fsking
railings which are a proximal cause in most of these needless deaths).
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/roadusers/cycling/11687.aspx?lid=switcher#beware

And if any of you are cyclists, or thinking of becoming cyclists round
London, I strongly recommend John Franklin's excellent book
Cyclecraft.

Note also that female cyclists are disproportionately involved in
these LGV crushing incidents. It's likely that this is because they
are less assertive on the road and more likely to ride too close to
the edge. There is a big difference between riding defensively and
riding timidly.

Anyway, enough of my hobby horse. Anyone who wants to know more about
best practice for safe cycling round London could do worse than drop
by uk.rec.cycling.

Guy
--
http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

Offramp wrote in news:603ac8ce-e923-4513-acbe-
:

On 24 July, 23:41, Richard

I feel unusually annoyed about this... They are some of the best buses
ever to be used in London or anywhere else, in my controversial
opinion.

I agree entirely. I think it is odd and very wrong that one man's
fatwa could get rid of them.

He's the Mayor; we elected him.

John B wrote in news:85fbe1a1-c492-4868-a841-
:

most bendy-haters don't use them


If they hate them and they have an alternative, why should they use them?