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Terminating trains open the doors on both sides at Morden, Golders
Green, Arnos Grove and White City.


Cockfosters? Loughton?


Certainly not CFS (open onto platform 3 only for 'safety reasons')
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Terminating trains open the doors on both sides at Morden, Golders
Green, Arnos Grove and White City.


Cockfosters? Loughton?


Uxbridge?


Nope, same as Cockfosters, only one platform (the one nearest the bus
station, I never remember the platform numbers there though!)
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On 1 Sep, 20:55, "Peter Smyth" wrote:
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On 01/09/2010 15:17, MIG wrote:
On 1 Sep, 12:08, Mike *wrote:
In
,
* * * * *Paul *wrote:


On Sep 1, 12:01 am, *wrote:


Presumably the old platform 3 will close - or will we have the
excitement of
dual platforms and both sets of doors opening?


AIUI the latter. No platforms are closing.


The email I got is quite explicit on this point. * *It says:


} Westbound Central line train doors will now open on both sides.
} When facing the direction of travel, you should exit via the right
} side of the train to change onto London Overground and National
} Rail services or via the left side of the train to change onto the
} Jubilee line, DLR or to leave the station.


This, I suppose, begs the question: *doors open on both sides of the
train at Barking, and soon at Stratford... anywhere else?


--
Mike Bristow * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *


I can't think of anywhere else on LU where non-terminating trains do
it.


I can't think of any place that terminating trains do it. The only
place that I know of that opens doors on both sides is the DLR at
Canary Wharf.


Terminating trains open the doors on both sides at Morden, Golders
Green, Arnos Grove and White City.

Peter Smyth


IME Golders Green terminators only disgorge onto the platform in
direction of travel.
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On 31 Aug, 12:36, "Dr. Sunil" wrote:
On 31 Aug, 10:59, Mike Bristow wrote:

In article ,
* * * * Dr. Sunil wrote:


It would appear that both the Central Line platform and the DLR
extension will be opening in mid to late September.


Same here! But they only mentioned 3a and not the DLR extension.


Platform 3a...must have platform 3a....


Um, shots taken today:

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi...Sept2010. jpg
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi..._look_east.jpg
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi..._look_west.jpg
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi...3a_signage.jpg
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On 5 Aug, 19:24, Bruce wrote:
On Thu, 5 Aug 2010 08:17:56 -0700 (PDT), "Dr. Sunil"

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I cannot understand the close spacing between West India Quay*/Canary
Wharf/Heron Quays.


There is so much that you "cannot understand". *Perhaps you should do
a little more research rather than instantly jump to the conclusion
that you "cannot understand".

One any other railway they'd have just built Canary
Wharf (longer platforms perhaps), with additional accesses north and
south across each Quay.


When the line was built, Canary Wharf did not exist as anything other
than a disused wharf. *Until the Reichmann brothers came along with
proposals to develop Canary Wharf into what it is today, there was no
need for a station at Canary Wharf at all. *

The DLR was built as an ultra-low cost light railway, and anything
that wasn't needed was not included. *Heron Quays and West India Quays
were both developed early and got stations.

When Canary Wharf station was built, it had to go between the two
existing stations. *That's why the three are so close together. *Once
again, the cost of making all three into one much larger station
spanning wide expanses of water would not have been economic.

(*even more so given the skip-stop service on
some Bank-Lewisham service (peaks?)).


In those days, the Lewisham extension hadn't even been planned, let
alone started. *Once again, you seem to think that people designing
the DLR in the mid-1980s should have been able to predict the exact
future course of development decades ahead ...

The truth is that no-one could have foreseen what would eventually
happen at Canary Wharf. *The idea came completely out of the blue. *It
was quite out of keeping with the then-current plans for Docklands,
which were for low- and medium-rise, low density development with the
primary objective of providing jobs for local people who were made
redundant when the docks and other associated local businesses closed.
The DLR was designed to support this objective. *So why on earth build
a grandiose station for a quay (Canary Wharf) which wasn't expected to
be developed?

No doubt you will have some smart-arse response to all this. *But I
suggest you should do a little more research instead of sounding off
on the basis of zero knowledge of the subject, which seems to have
been your style so far.

By the way, you owe Paul Corfield an apology. *Some serious grovelling
would be appropriate, but if you can't be sincere, don't bother.


Oh drop the haughty attitude you arrogant prick.

Canary Wharf was always planned as the main focus of the docklands
development. The plans did change, but the original scheme had the
largest most elaborate offices there - a big post-modernist thing. The
second plan had the canary wharf tower and two smaller towers adjacent
to it. Even though they ran out of money, when the development
expanded over the last decade, they still kept to the plan, building
the two companion towers where they always were going to be.

The reason there is a station at Canary Wharf is because, prior to the
Jubilee line and Crossrail, the line crossed multiple docks. There was
a station at each landfall - South Quay, Heron Quays, Canary Wharf,
and West India Quay - because people can't swim across the docks,
there were no bridges, and it was a long way to walk round the quay to
the bit where they all meet.


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