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At about 07.40 on Sunday morning 20/07/08, I saw a westbound train at
Aldgate East. The destination on the front was "CIRCLE LINE". There was
no mention of it on the platform train describer. The PA sounded
something akin to: "This is a Circle Line service via Liverpool Street".

Where might it have been parked?
What wanderings do Circle Line services do?

I have occasionally been on a Circle or H&C service which has suddenly
transformed itself into the other sort of service but have not
previously seen this sort of presentation.

http://journeyplanner.tfl.gov.uk/use...guage=en&type=
stop&id=1000004 implies the Circle Line serves Aldgate East. Similar
pages suggest the Circle goes as far as Barking. !!

OTOH, it is not reported to go to Royal Oak - on the way to the
Hammersmith sidings - or to Earls Court on the way to Wimbledon or
Kensington Olympia.
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Walter Briscoe wrote:

At about 07.40 on Sunday morning 20/07/08, I saw a westbound train at
Aldgate East. The destination on the front was "CIRCLE LINE". There was no
mention of it on the platform train describer. The PA sounded something
akin to: "This is a Circle Line service via Liverpool Street".

Where might it have been parked?
What wanderings do Circle Line services do?


Probably entering service from Upney (Barking) sidings, where a number of
C-stock trains are berthed nightly.

I recall this service from my time living in Barking. It always caused a
degree of confusion to the bleary-eyed, early on a Sunday. Not least
because, with no H&C service east of Whitechapel on a Sunday, nobody at
Barking expected to see a C-stock train in service.

Plus, of course, the obvious question as to whether this 'Circle Line' train
would become a clockwise or anti-clockwise service!

Chris


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On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 00:52:33 +0100, "Chris Read"
wrote:


Walter Briscoe wrote:

At about 07.40 on Sunday morning 20/07/08, I saw a westbound train at
Aldgate East. The destination on the front was "CIRCLE LINE". There was no
mention of it on the platform train describer. The PA sounded something
akin to: "This is a Circle Line service via Liverpool Street".

Where might it have been parked?
What wanderings do Circle Line services do?


Probably entering service from Upney (Barking) sidings, where a number of
C-stock trains are berthed nightly.

I recall this service from my time living in Barking. It always caused a
degree of confusion to the bleary-eyed, early on a Sunday. Not least
because, with no H&C service east of Whitechapel on a Sunday, nobody at
Barking expected to see a C-stock train in service.

Plus, of course, the obvious question as to whether this 'Circle Line' train
would become a clockwise or anti-clockwise service!


Surely it should announce as H&C to Edgware Road or District to
Gloucester Road (is that possible?), as appropriate, until reaching
Liverpool Street/Tower Hill?
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James Farrar wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 00:52:33 +0100, "Chris Read"
wrote:


Walter Briscoe wrote:

At about 07.40 on Sunday morning 20/07/08, I saw a westbound train
at Aldgate East. The destination on the front was "CIRCLE LINE".
There was no mention of it on the platform train describer. The PA
sounded something akin to: "This is a Circle Line service via
Liverpool Street".


Surely it should announce as H&C to Edgware Road or District to
Gloucester Road (is that possible?), as appropriate, until reaching
Liverpool Street/Tower Hill?


Then people going to Notting Hill Gate would get off at Mile End
unneccessarily...


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John Rowland wrote:

James Farrar wrote:
Surely it should announce as H&C to Edgware Road or District to
Gloucester Road (is that possible?), as appropriate, until reaching
Liverpool Street/Tower Hill?


Then people going to Notting Hill Gate would get off at Mile End
unneccessarily...


They'd get there considerably quicker if they did.

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On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 00:17:55 +0100, Walter Briscoe wrote:

At about 07.40 on Sunday morning 20/07/08, I saw a westbound train at
Aldgate East. The destination on the front was "CIRCLE LINE". There was
no mention of it on the platform train describer. The PA sounded
something akin to: "This is a Circle Line service via Liverpool Street".

Where might it have been parked?
What wanderings do Circle Line services do?


It is not unusual for a train to be taken from Circle Line service and out
to Aldgate East or even Whitechapel and then sent on its way as if it had
gone through Aldgate - the effect is to turn the train.

The C stocks can serve virtually all of the District Line - not just
Wimbleware - but if you saw a Circle at Aldgate East, it was probably
being turned.

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Phil Reynolds wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 00:17:55 +0100, Walter Briscoe wrote:

At about 07.40 on Sunday morning 20/07/08, I saw a westbound train at
Aldgate East. The destination on the front was "CIRCLE LINE". There
was no mention of it on the platform train describer. The PA sounded
something akin to: "This is a Circle Line service via Liverpool
Street".

Where might it have been parked?
What wanderings do Circle Line services do?


It is not unusual for a train to be taken from Circle Line service
and out to Aldgate East or even Whitechapel and then sent on its way
as if it had gone through Aldgate - the effect is to turn the train.

The C stocks can serve virtually all of the District Line - not just
Wimbleware - but if you saw a Circle at Aldgate East, it was probably
being turned.


Yeah. Have seen a C stock arrive at Mile End w/b on Circle Line duty
early on a Sunday too. I just imagined it had started life at
Plaistow/Barking.

I also saw a C stock at Mile End one Saturday evening a few years back,
but that was when Chelsea were playing West Ham. So it was some sort of
special added for the football traffic I'd imagine. I didn't see the
front of the train, but the indicator at the time said Wimbledon.

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On Jul 21, 6:59*pm, "Stephen O'Connell" wrote:
Phil Reynolds wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 00:17:55 +0100, Walter Briscoe wrote:


At about 07.40 on Sunday morning 20/07/08, I saw a westbound train at
Aldgate East. The destination on the front was "CIRCLE LINE". There
was no mention of it on the platform train describer. The PA sounded
something akin to: "This is a Circle Line service via Liverpool
Street".


Where might it have been parked?
What wanderings do Circle Line services do?


It is not unusual for a train to be taken from Circle Line service
and out to Aldgate East or even Whitechapel and then sent on its way
as if it had gone through Aldgate - the effect is to turn the train.


The C stocks can serve virtually all of the District Line - not just
Wimbleware - but if you saw a Circle at Aldgate East, it was probably
being turned.


Yeah. Have seen a C stock arrive at Mile End w/b on Circle Line duty
early on a Sunday too. I just imagined it had started life at
Plaistow/Barking.

I also saw a C stock at Mile End one Saturday evening a few years back,
but that was when Chelsea were playing West Ham. So it was some sort of
special added for the football traffic I'd imagine. I didn't see the
front of the train, but the indicator at the time said Wimbledon.-


Years ago I saw a C stock train at Richmond with Edgware Road as the
destination. I've never worked out why any such move would be
necessary.

Nowadays, the Barking sidings are mainly used for C stock, with the
odd bit of D stock, but I think before the Jubilee extension and its
effects on Neasden, there wasn't much C stock stabled at Barking, but
some was stabled at Neasden. I wondered how they went into service
from there, but I never saw it happening.
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In article ,
(Phil Reynolds) wrote:

The C stocks can serve virtually all of the District Line - not just
Wimbleware - but if you saw a Circle at Aldgate East, it was
probably being turned.


They only have the Wimbleware part of the District on their line
diagrams.

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On Jul 21, 8:24*pm, (Colin Rosenstiel) wrote:
In article ,

(Phil Reynolds) wrote:
The C stocks can serve virtually all of the District Line - not just
Wimbleware - but if you saw a Circle at Aldgate East, it was
probably being turned.


They only have the Wimbleware part of the District on their line
diagrams.


They used to oddly have Olympia, even though they didn't go there as
far as I know.


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