Dave Arquati wrote:
Dave Newt wrote:

James Farrar wrote:

On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 15:20:14 +0000, Dave Newt
wrote:

It's hardly far though - about a 4 minute walk from IC's [1] main
entrance. I used to quite like walking there down the back of
Southside, along the mews, right to the end where you cut through
the archway in the wall, and then turn L-R-L-R down to where the
Hans Place (?) side of Harrods is.

Another nice walk is via the churchyard at the back of Brompton
Oratory.


I lived in Linstead for a year (lucky me) so that was my favoured
route out, of course.


I'll see your Linstead and raise you Fisher.

[1] I don't work there any more, so I can freely ignore the new
style guide :-)


Ignore Sykes. That's what I do. Save the comma!


To be fair to him, he was always very nice and interested in what I
had to say on the two or three occasions I "officially" met him. It's
the brand implementers who tend to be amongst the most clueless I
find... (and not just there either...)


I've given up caring about the comma... half the people I talk to
outside uni haven't even heard of the place, let alone care about the
comma!


Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7

Your sig is non style-compliant - report to Level 3 of the lego building
immediately! :-)

Count yourself lucky anyway - my new workplace also includes font face,
size and colour in the house style for EMAIL. I've tried explaining, but
to no avail. No wonder half my outbound mail goes in the recipients'
spambucket.

Dave Arquati wrote:
Dave Newt wrote:
James Farrar wrote:

On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 15:20:14 +0000, Dave Newt
wrote:

It's hardly far though - about a 4 minute walk from IC's [1] main
entrance. I used to quite like walking there down the back of
Southside, along the mews, right to the end where you cut
through the archway in the wall, and then turn L-R-L-R down to
where the
Hans Place (?) side of Harrods is.

Another nice walk is via the churchyard at the back of Brompton
Oratory.

I lived in Linstead for a year (lucky me) so that was my favoured
route out, of course.

I'll see your Linstead and raise you Fisher.

[1] I don't work there any more, so I can freely ignore the new
style guide :-)

Ignore Sykes. That's what I do. Save the comma!

To be fair to him, he was always very nice and interested in what
I had to say on the two or three occasions I "officially" met him.
It's the brand implementers who tend to be amongst the most
clueless I find... (and not just there either...)

I've given up caring about the comma... half the people I talk to
outside uni haven't even heard of the place, let alone care about
the comma!

Some of us care deeply about commas, and are trying to work out where
this comma is supposed to go, or not go. How about an explanation for
the uninitiated?
--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)

Richard J. wrote:
Dave Arquati wrote:

Dave Newt wrote:

James Farrar wrote:


On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 15:20:14 +0000, Dave Newt
wrote:


It's hardly far though - about a 4 minute walk from IC's [1] main
entrance. I used to quite like walking there down the back of
Southside, along the mews, right to the end where you cut
through the archway in the wall, and then turn L-R-L-R down to
where the
Hans Place (?) side of Harrods is.

Another nice walk is via the churchyard at the back of Brompton
Oratory.

I lived in Linstead for a year (lucky me) so that was my favoured
route out, of course.

I'll see your Linstead and raise you Fisher.


[1] I don't work there any more, so I can freely ignore the new
style guide :-)

Ignore Sykes. That's what I do. Save the comma!

To be fair to him, he was always very nice and interested in what
I had to say on the two or three occasions I "officially" met him.
It's the brand implementers who tend to be amongst the most
clueless I find... (and not just there either...)

I've given up caring about the comma... half the people I talk to
outside uni haven't even heard of the place, let alone care about
the comma!


Some of us care deeply about commas, and are trying to work out where
this comma is supposed to go, or not go. How about an explanation for
the uninitiated?

It used to be called Imperial College, and was referred to as IC. The
domain was .ic.ac.uk.

In the rebranding, it was decided that the new name should be Imperial
College London and that the short version should be Imperial. Use of
..ic.ac.uk has been proscribed and the ICT Department had fun trying to
change all the domain servers to .imperial.ac.uk.

However, this creates a false analogy with University College, London,
which has a comma in it and is commonly referred to as UCL.

The Imperial branding people specified that it must not be called ICL
and that a comma must not be employed when writing the full name
Imperial College London. (The use of IC is "to be actively discouraged
too".)

Actually, the full name was actually Imperial College of Science,
Technology and Medicine. This name is still to be retained for legal
purposes in some situations.

To be honest, I suspect the dropping of ST&M was mainly to raise the
profile of the Business School who just spunked 25 mil up Norman Foster
on a new building.

Dave Newt wrote:
Richard J. wrote:

Dave Arquati wrote:

Dave Newt wrote:

James Farrar wrote:


On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 15:20:14 +0000, Dave Newt
wrote:


It's hardly far though - about a 4 minute walk from IC's [1] main
entrance. I used to quite like walking there down the back of
Southside, along the mews, right to the end where you cut
through the archway in the wall, and then turn L-R-L-R down to
where the
Hans Place (?) side of Harrods is.

Another nice walk is via the churchyard at the back of Brompton
Oratory.


I lived in Linstead for a year (lucky me) so that was my favoured
route out, of course.


I'll see your Linstead and raise you Fisher.


[1] I don't work there any more, so I can freely ignore the new
style guide :-)


Ignore Sykes. That's what I do. Save the comma!


To be fair to him, he was always very nice and interested in what
I had to say on the two or three occasions I "officially" met him.
It's the brand implementers who tend to be amongst the most
clueless I find... (and not just there either...)


I've given up caring about the comma... half the people I talk to
outside uni haven't even heard of the place, let alone care about
the comma!



Some of us care deeply about commas, and are trying to work out where
this comma is supposed to go, or not go. How about an explanation for
the uninitiated?


It used to be called Imperial College, and was referred to as IC. The
domain was .ic.ac.uk.

In the rebranding, it was decided that the new name should be Imperial
College London and that the short version should be Imperial. Use of
..ic.ac.uk has been proscribed and the ICT Department had fun trying to
change all the domain servers to .imperial.ac.uk.

However, this creates a false analogy with University College, London,
which has a comma in it and is commonly referred to as UCL.

The Imperial branding people specified that it must not be called ICL
and that a comma must not be employed when writing the full name
Imperial College London. (The use of IC is "to be actively discouraged
too".)

Actually, the full name was actually Imperial College of Science,
Technology and Medicine. This name is still to be retained for legal
purposes in some situations.

To be honest, I suspect the dropping of ST&M was mainly to raise the
profile of the Business School who just spunked 25 mil up Norman Foster
on a new building.

That's probably the dirtiest way I've ever heard anyone describe the
Tanaka Building... (which is on Exhibition Road, to keep this slightly
on topic and relate it to that thread).

--
Dave Arquati
Imperial College, SW7
www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London

Dave Arquati wrote:
Dave Newt wrote:

To be honest, I suspect the dropping of ST&M was mainly to raise the
profile of the Business School who just spunked 25 mil up Norman
Foster on a new building.


That's probably the dirtiest way I've ever heard anyone describe the
Tanaka Building... (which is on Exhibition Road, to keep this slightly
on topic and relate it to that thread).

Apologies - I did actually tone it down before hitting send. Er, twice. :-)

Have they managed to get all five new doors working simultaneously yet?

Have they managed to get all five new doors working simultaneously
yet?

Of course not!

The swipecard front doors are broken and the inner back door doesn't
open fully. I think the only day all 5 sets of doors were working was
when the queen visited.

--
Chris

wrote:
Have they managed to get all five new doors working simultaneously

yet?

Of course not!

The swipecard front doors are broken and the inner back door doesn't
open fully. I think the only day all 5 sets of doors were working was
when the queen visited.

Even when they work, they are so slooooooooow that you always walk into
them too. I think half the faults are due to people pushing them aside
in frustration (guilty, m'lud).

The Queen day was fun, trying to watch the orchestra fit a double bass
through a metal detector. I managed to sneak a bunch of tourists in to
have a nosey :-) The sight of Sykesy-boy actually simpering to someone
was a rare sight too.

Dave Newt wrote:
Richard J. wrote:
Some of us care deeply about commas, and are trying to work out
where this comma is supposed to go, or not go. How about an
explanation for the uninitiated?

It used to be called Imperial College, and was referred to as IC.
The domain was .ic.ac.uk.

In the rebranding, it was decided that the new name should be
Imperial College London and that the short version should be
Imperial. Use of .ic.ac.uk has been proscribed and the ICT
Department had fun trying to change all the domain servers to
.imperial.ac.uk.

However, this creates a false analogy with University College,
London, which has a comma in it and is commonly referred to as UCL.

On UCL's site www.ucl.ac.uk, they use UCL as the name almost
exclusively, even in the history ("175 years ago ... UCL was founded").
Where the name is given in full, I haven't seen one instance on their
site where the comma is included.

The Imperial branding people specified that it must not be called
ICL

Quite right too. Some of us have fond memories of a company called ICL,
1968-2002.

Thanks very much for the explanation.

--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)

Richard J. wrote:
Dave Newt wrote:

Richard J. wrote:

Some of us care deeply about commas, and are trying to work out
where this comma is supposed to go, or not go. How about an
explanation for the uninitiated?

It used to be called Imperial College, and was referred to as IC.
The domain was .ic.ac.uk.

In the rebranding, it was decided that the new name should be
Imperial College London and that the short version should be
Imperial. Use of .ic.ac.uk has been proscribed and the ICT
Department had fun trying to change all the domain servers to
.imperial.ac.uk.

However, this creates a false analogy with University College,
London, which has a comma in it and is commonly referred to as UCL.


On UCL's site www.ucl.ac.uk, they use UCL as the name almost
exclusively, even in the history ("175 years ago ... UCL was founded").
Where the name is given in full, I haven't seen one instance on their
site where the comma is included.

You're right - they *must* have changed it. It always was with a comma.

The Imperial branding people specified that it must not be called
ICL


Quite right too. Some of us have fond memories of a company called ICL,
1968-2002.

I think it was the "-2002" part of their history that they wanted to
distance themselves from!

Dave Newt wrote the following in:


snip

Blimey, that all sounds a bit complicated. I wonder if the LSE has such
rules, I'm certainly not aware of them.

To be honest, I suspect the dropping of ST&M was mainly to raise
the profile of the Business School who just spunked 25 mil up
Norman Foster on a new building.

Someone kill that man, he is responsible for the atrocity that is the
central spiral staircase in the LSE library. He also designed the GLA
building which has a similar spiral staircase. Usually the purpose of a
staircase is for people to walk on it, but with the LSE one the main
purpose is so photos of it can be put in university publicity. I firmly
believe that the designer of these things has never tried to walk on
them.

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