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On Tue, 21 Aug 2012 07:57:59 +0100
Arthur Figgis wrote:
I don't always agree with your sentiments, but in this case I think
you are right. Relatively speaking, it is cheap and easy for maps to
be posted up on the walls in various strategic places (platforms, for
example), where a quick glance "I need to go down there a bit, then
over there a bit" tells the traveller enough.


That works if there is a turn-up and go service everywhere, or the map


Is there a metro system in the world that isn't turn up and go?

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Is there a metro system in the world that isn't turn up and go?


Merseyrail on a Sunday. The S Bahn Stuttgart.

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On 21 Aug 2012 09:18:26 GMT
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Is there a metro system in the world that isn't turn up and go?


Merseyrail on a Sunday. The S Bahn Stuttgart.


Are you suggesting you have to book in advance to use these systems on a
sunday? Excuse me if I'm not convinced.

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Are you suggesting you have to book in advance to use these systems on a
sunday? Excuse me if I'm not convinced.


No, but I am suggesting that they operate relatively infrequent services on
a half hourly base which unless you have lots of time in your hands
requires the use of a timetable or journey planner, not just a map.

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On 21 Aug 2012 09:29:39 GMT
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Are you suggesting you have to book in advance to use these systems on a
sunday? Excuse me if I'm not convinced.


No, but I am suggesting that they operate relatively infrequent services on
a half hourly base which unless you have lots of time in your hands
requires the use of a timetable or journey planner, not just a map.


A half hourly basis isn't that bad for those systems on a sunday given they're
suburban rail systems and not really metros at all. On average you'll only be
waiting 15 mins.

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On Tue, 21 Aug 2012 09:47:48 +0000 (UTC), d wrote:

A half hourly basis isn't that bad for those systems on a sunday given they're
suburban rail systems and not really metros at all. On average you'll only be
waiting 15 mins.


But you would have to plan for a half hour wait.

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On 21/08/2012 10:18, Neil Williams wrote:
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Is there a metro system in the world that isn't turn up and go?


Merseyrail on a Sunday. The S Bahn Stuttgart.


You might have had a fair wait at Shoreditch if you weren't careful.

I'm pretty certain events-only stations exist at places like sports
stadia. I think Ulm has a tram branch to a conference centre. Depending
what counts as a metro, I think there are S-bahn branded rail services
which are hourly, perhaps even every 2 h, which might catch out someone
who is used to a Berlin-style operation. Southern "metro" services to
Epsom Downs are hourly, although I'm not sure I have ever heard anyone
outside Southern use the term.

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On 22/08/2012 20:35, Arthur Figgis wrote:
On 21/08/2012 10:18, Neil Williams wrote:
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Is there a metro system in the world that isn't turn up and go?


Merseyrail on a Sunday. The S Bahn Stuttgart.


You might have had a fair wait at Shoreditch if you weren't careful.

I'm pretty certain events-only stations exist at places like sports
stadia. I think Ulm has a tram branch to a conference centre. Depending
what counts as a metro, I think there are S-bahn branded rail services
which are hourly, perhaps even every 2 h, which might catch out someone
who is used to a Berlin-style operation. Southern "metro" services to
Epsom Downs are hourly, although I'm not sure I have ever heard anyone
outside Southern use the term.


The New York City Subway has an events-only station at Aqueduct
Racetrack on the Rockaway Line. The station has a northbound only
platform and trains call there only on racing days.

The Staten Island Railway also had the Richmond County Bank Ballpark,
which actually operated on what is now the defunct North Shore Branch.
The station operated during the June to September, but operated only
between 2001 to 2009.

I would like to think that they will eventually reopen that station,
though I don't know what the plan is.
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On 21/08/2012 10:18, Neil Williams wrote:
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Is there a metro system in the world that isn't turn up and go?


Merseyrail on a Sunday. The S Bahn Stuttgart.

Neil

Glasgow Subway on a Sunday?
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In message , at 08:50:24 on Tue, 21 Aug
2012, d remarked:

That works if there is a turn-up and go service everywhere, or the map


Is there a metro system in the world that isn't turn up and go?


When does that kick in... 4tph? I'm sure we can find a 3tph Metro.
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