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Last weekend I had nothing to do, so I've drawn my own tube map :-|
http://www.fxfp.com/get/tube/2007/05/m_001.png

Warning! The file is about 500kb and quite large: 5000x3250 pixels.

Notable changes compared to the official map:
* no North London line (I will add Overground when it will launch)
* "walk-only" interchanges between stations omitted (Shadwell, Bow
Road/Church, etc)
* no Regent's Park (it will be hidden until opening) and Shoreditch
stations

Any corrections are welcome!

P.S. And if you are wonder, why the world needs yet another tube map -
well, I have no idea ;-)
Well, actually I do have an idea - I'm praparing my own website about
the Tube and I needed editable map for it (to draw historical maps and
future maps).


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On 3 May 2007 14:11:46 -0700, alex_t wrote:

Last weekend I had nothing to do, so I've drawn my own tube map :-|
http://www.fxfp.com/get/tube/2007/05/m_001.png


Hmmm png, which loads quicktime, which promtly crashes and restarts the
whole shell.

I'm sure its nice but I won't be seeing it!

Steve
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Hmmm png, which loads quicktime, which promtly crashes and restarts the
whole shell.


Oops! Something must be very wrong on your computer's configuration :-
S
I can open it in both IE and Firefox without any problems...

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ups.com...
Last weekend I had nothing to do, so I've drawn my own tube map :-|
http://www.fxfp.com/get/tube/2007/05/m_001.png

Warning! The file is about 500kb and quite large: 5000x3250 pixels.

Notable changes compared to the official map:
* no North London line (I will add Overground when it will launch)
* "walk-only" interchanges between stations omitted (Shadwell, Bow
Road/Church, etc)
* no Regent's Park (it will be hidden until opening) and Shoreditch
stations

Any corrections are welcome!

P.S. And if you are wonder, why the world needs yet another tube map -
well, I have no idea ;-)
Well, actually I do have an idea - I'm praparing my own website about
the Tube and I needed editable map for it (to draw historical maps and
future maps).


I am not sure if it is meant to be topographical or give some sort of
relation of proximities. If you are trying to give somesort of idea of
distance between stations etc, the distance between Uxbridge and the
Piccadilly line at Heathrow seems too great
If it is topographical, it is great - I like it - it once again illustrates
how poorly served 'sarf London' is

Philip


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Last weekend I had nothing to do, so I've drawn my own tube map :-|
http://www.fxfp.com/get/tube/2007/05/m_001.png

Warning! The file is about 500kb and quite large: 5000x3250 pixels.

Notable changes compared to the official map:
* no North London line (I will add Overground when it will launch)
* "walk-only" interchanges between stations omitted (Shadwell, Bow
Road/Church, etc)
* no Regent's Park (it will be hidden until opening) and Shoreditch
stations

Any corrections are welcome!

P.S. And if you are wonder, why the world needs yet another tube map -
well, I have no idea ;-)
Well, actually I do have an idea - I'm praparing my own website about
the Tube and I needed editable map for it (to draw historical maps and
future maps).


I like it, though you probably do need to move things around a little to
better illustrate the true distances between stations. For example,
shouldn't Southwark station be shown closer to Waterloo than to London
Bridge? And the real Covent Garden is much closer to Leicester Square
than to Holborn.

One query is at Ealing Broadway -- presumably for simplicity, you show
the District staying south of the Central, though in reality, of course,
the District and Piccadilly are on the same tracks as they pass over the
Central, and then the District swings round sharply to end up parallel
to but north of the Central in Ealing Broadway station. Also, wouldn't
it be better to show Camden Town as some sort of interchange?

You also ignore national railways and trams altogether, not even showing
interchanges with them -- wouldn't it be worth giving some indication of
such connections?




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I am not sure if it is meant to be topographical or give some sort of
relation of proximities. If you are trying to give somesort of idea of
distance between stations etc, the distance between Uxbridge and the
Piccadilly line at Heathrow seems too great


This is not a topographical map - this is a diagram (which I tried to
make more "lifelike"). The center and parts around Hammersmith and
Whitechapel are enlarged, the border areas are skewed.

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I don't see why you made this?

The advantage of a systematic map, like Beck's tube map, is how clear
it is. The advantage of a topological map is that you can see real
distances and routes. This map combines them, but is less clear than a
systematic map without being topologically correct either! So I really
don't see what we are gaining here?

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Alex Tereshchenko:
Last weekend I had nothing to do, so I've drawn my own tube map :-|
http://www.fxfp.com/get/tube/2007/05/m_001.png

Notable changes compared to the official map:
* no North London line (I will add Overground when it will launch)
* "walk-only" interchanges between stations omitted (Shadwell, Bow
Road/Church, etc)
* no Regent's Park (it will be hidden until opening) and Shoreditch
stations

Any corrections are welcome!


Farringdon is misspelled, and the Victoria Line seems to be missing a
stop between Highbury & Islington and Euston. (No, this does not mean
that I've proofread the whole thing.)

I don't care for the way the lines artistically curve this way and that
as if the map was geographical, when of course it isn't, and I don't
like the rather widely spaced lines for the 4-track District/Piccadilly
and Jubilee/Metropolitan sections. But certainly these are matters of
taste, and they do help make the map distinct from LU's copyrighted
version.

Given that the interchanges are not being rendered geographically,
Whitechapel might as well be visually simplified by drawing the East
London Line station southwest of the District/Metropolitan Line one,
instead of northwest.
--
Mark Brader There are people on that train!
Toronto Sure, they're Canadians, but they're still people!
-- Paul Gross, "Due South"

My text in this article is in the public domain.
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Updated with your suggestions :-)
I actually lived for while right near the junction in Ealing (saw it
each day from my window) - but I think my original idea of making it
simple was wrong.
As for Camden Town - I'll try to think of a better way to show it :-/

You also ignore national railways and trams altogether, not even showing
interchanges with them -- wouldn't it be worth giving some indication of
such connections?


It depends on whether I really want to make this map useful for anyone
except tube enthusiasts ;-)

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The advantage of a systematic map, like Beck's tube map, is how clear
it is. The advantage of a topological map is that you can see real
distances and routes. This map combines them, but is less clear than a
systematic map without being topologically correct either! So I really
don't see what we are gaining here?


I'm making a website about London Underground, and I needed a map to
illustrate to stuff. As original tube map is copyrighted, I could not
use it - so I made my own. I don't think there is any serious gain
from this map - except that I'm going to update it very often, even
with smallest changes (for example making special weekend versions,
etc).



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