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Paul Terry wrote:

But you would be in no danger of
missing the last train.


well, that cheers me up a lot!

I'm planning to get to London by the Eurostar train from Paris. The
train stops at the St. Pancras International station; so the King's
Cross St. Pancras subway station should be nearby. How do I get to the
Fulham Broadway station? How much is it?

Do you think the St. Pancras International station is a nice play to
have a meal and take some rest?

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(Larry) wrote:

In article ,
Paul Terry wrote:

But you would be in no danger of missing the last train.


well, that cheers me up a lot!

I'm planning to get to London by the Eurostar train from Paris. The
train stops at the St. Pancras International station; so the King's
Cross St. Pancras subway station should be nearby. How do I get to
the Fulham Broadway station? How much is it?

Do you think the St. Pancras International station is a nice play
to have a meal and take some rest?


At a price! There are a few more reasonable alternatives across the road
from King's Cross station next door, including a pleasant enough noodle
bar cum takeaway.

You have a choice from King's Cross St Pancras tube to Fulham Broadway.
Either the Circle or Hammersmith and City Lines westbound to Paddington
(Circle) or Edgware Road, changing to a District train from Edgware Road
to Wimbledon. The advantage of the Circle in particular and this route in
general is that the change at Paddington is on the same platform and that
at Edgware Road is often cross-platform. Sometimes you have to cross the
bridge there, though, hence my preference for Paddington if a Circle Line
train comes first at King's Cross.

The other route is to take the Victoria Line from King's Cross St Pancras
tube to Victoria and change to the District Line there. If the first train
if not for Wimbledon, take the first (but not a Circle train) to Earl's
Court and change to a Wimbledon train there.

The other reason for preferring the first option above on a night when
Chelsea are playing at home is that you won't get a seat on a train you
get on at Earl's Court but your probably will at Edgware Road or
Paddington!

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Colin Rosenstiel
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On Sat, 20 Dec 2008, wrote:

In article ,
(Larry) wrote:

In article ,
Paul Terry wrote:

But you would be in no danger of missing the last train.


well, that cheers me up a lot!

I'm planning to get to London by the Eurostar train from Paris. The
train stops at the St. Pancras International station; so the King's
Cross St. Pancras subway station should be nearby. How do I get to
the Fulham Broadway station? How much is it?

Do you think the St. Pancras International station is a nice play
to have a meal and take some rest?


At a price! There are a few more reasonable alternatives across the road
from King's Cross station next door, including a pleasant enough noodle
bar cum takeaway.


And a terrific Ethiopian, five minutes' walk up Caledonian Road.

You have a choice from King's Cross St Pancras tube to Fulham Broadway.
Either the Circle or Hammersmith and City Lines westbound to Paddington
(Circle) or Edgware Road, changing to a District train from Edgware Road
to Wimbledon. The advantage of the Circle in particular and this route
in general is that the change at Paddington is on the same platform and
that at Edgware Road is often cross-platform. Sometimes you have to
cross the bridge there, though, hence my preference for Paddington if a
Circle Line train comes first at King's Cross.


This would also be my first choice of route.

The other route is to take the Victoria Line from King's Cross St
Pancras tube to Victoria and change to the District Line there. If the
first train if not for Wimbledon, take the first (but not a Circle
train) to Earl's Court and change to a Wimbledon train there.


Or Piccadilly from KX to Earl's Court. It's slower than the Victoria
option, but avoids changing at Victoria. I mention it largely for
completeness!

tom

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In article ,
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*Date:* Sat, 20 Dec 2008 13:46:28 +0000

On Sat, 20 Dec 2008,
wrote:

In article ,
(Larry) wrote:

In article ,
Paul Terry wrote:

But you would be in no danger of missing the last train.

well, that cheers me up a lot!

I'm planning to get to London by the Eurostar train from Paris.

The
train stops at the St. Pancras International station; so the

King's
Cross St. Pancras subway station should be nearby. How do I get

to
the Fulham Broadway station? How much is it?

Do you think the St. Pancras International station is a nice play
to have a meal and take some rest?


At a price! There are a few more reasonable alternatives across
the road
from King's Cross station next door, including a pleasant enough
noodle
bar cum takeaway.


And a terrific Ethiopian, five minutes' walk up Caledonian Road.

You have a choice from King's Cross St Pancras tube to Fulham
Broadway. Either the Circle or Hammersmith and City Lines
westbound to Paddington (Circle) or Edgware Road, changing to a
District train from Edgware Road to Wimbledon. The advantage of
the Circle in particular and this route in general is that the
change at Paddington is on the same platform and that at Edgware
Road is often cross-platform. Sometimes you have to cross the
bridge there, though, hence my preference for Paddington if a
Circle Line train comes first at King's Cross.


This would also be my first choice of route.

The other route is to take the Victoria Line from King's Cross St
Pancras tube to Victoria and change to the District Line there.
If the first train if not for Wimbledon, take the first (but not
a Circle train) to Earl's Court and change to a Wimbledon train
there.


Or Piccadilly from KX to Earl's Court. It's slower than the
Victoria option, but avoids changing at Victoria. I mention it
largely for completeness!


I wouldn't normally consider that route.

My reason for preferring the Victoria is that it is consistently faster
across London because its route is better laid out for speed and its top
speed is more than 50% above those of other tube lines. Until recently my
second option always seemed the faster tube route to Putney, though
Victoria Line to Vauxhall and SWT to Putney is the fastest, not relevant
for Fulham Broadway of course nor possible with Oyster PAYG and more
expensive from Cambridge without a ODTC.

My reasons for preferring the Circle route these days are that it has
proved no slower recently when travelling with my granddaughter in a buggy
for whom the same platform interchange is much easier. Avoiding escalators
and stairs is another reason then. I must have been fitter and obviously
younger when doing the journey with my children in buggies.

Not trying to board a Wimbledon train at Earls Court is an extra issue
when Chelsea are playing at home. I've got caught by that too often when
travelling with a bike to my mother's from St James's Park!

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On 20 Dec, 13:32, wrote:

In article ,
(Larry) wrote:

In article ,
*Paul Terry wrote:


But you would be in no danger of missing the last train.


well, that cheers me up a lot!


I'm planning to get to London by the Eurostar train from Paris. The
train stops at the St. Pancras International station; so the King's
Cross St. Pancras subway station should be nearby. How do I get to
the Fulham Broadway station? How much is it?


Do you think the St. Pancras International station is a nice play
to have a meal and take some rest?


At a price! There are a few more reasonable alternatives across the road
from King's Cross station next door, including a pleasant enough noodle
bar cum takeaway.

You have a choice from King's Cross St Pancras tube to Fulham Broadway.
Either the Circle or Hammersmith and City Lines westbound to Paddington
(Circle) or Edgware Road, changing to a District train from Edgware Road
to Wimbledon. The advantage of the Circle in particular and this route in
general is that the change at Paddington is on *the same platform and that
at Edgware Road is often cross-platform. Sometimes you have to cross the
bridge there, though, hence my preference for Paddington if a Circle Line
train comes first at King's Cross.

The other route is to take the Victoria Line from King's Cross St Pancras
tube to Victoria and change to the District Line there. If the first train
if not for Wimbledon, take the first (but not a Circle train) to Earl's
Court and change to a Wimbledon train there.

The other reason for preferring the first option above on a night when
Chelsea are playing at home is that you won't get a seat on a train you
get on at Earl's Court but your probably will at Edgware Road or
Paddington!


May I present Larry with the Tube map so he can visualise his
potential routes...

Tube map as a GIF image:
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloa...d-tube-map.gif

Tube map as a PDF:
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloa...d-tube-map.pdf

The latter PDF version has an overlay of grid squares - Kings Cross
St. Pancras is in square C5, Fulham Broadway is in square E3.

Circle line is yellow, District line is green, Victoria line is light
blue, Piccadilly line is dark blue.


I think Colin Rosenstiel basically covers everything. I would be
somewhat minded to avoid changing at Edgware Road - those times I have
done so I've found it confusing and seen many others looking rather
befuddled, and I'm not really one to get confused by such things! To
avoid doing this, as Colin says you can take a Circle line train to
Paddington, alight and then wait for a District line train to
Wimbledon which will take you to Fulham Broadway. Note that the Circle
line only has a frequency of every 10 minutes though.

The other route, not mentioned by Colin but separately by Tom
Anderson, is to take a Piccadilly line train to Earl's Court and then
change for a District line train towards Wimbledon. The Piccadilly is
likely to be very busy, though all trains will be busy at this time.

Note that the Circle and District lines run close to the surface and
use larger trains. The Piccadilly and Victoria line trains are at a
much deeper level and are proper tube lines in that the tunnels and
trains are both tube shaped.

Also note that the system here is not referred to as the subway but as
the Underground (even though bits of it go above ground) or the Tube
(even though only some lines are true tube lines).

Fares - you should buy yourself a zones 1&2 Day Travelcard at a cost
of £5.30 this year - the price will rise to £5.60 next year. This will
cover you for unlimited journeys on the Underground in zones 1&2 -
i.e. the central area - plus all London buses. This is your cheapest
option, unless you are in possession of an Oyster smart card - but you
shouldn't get one of them just for this trip.

If you want to be really smart and avoid the ever present queues at
the Underground station, you can actually buy this zones 1&2 Day
Travelcard from the mainline rail ticket offices at St Pancras - there
are two of them both signed as "UK Rail Tickets", both can sell you
this ticket though the one on the left (run by "First Capital
Connect") will likely serve you more quickly should there be a queue.
(Note that these ticket clerks will not have an intimate knowledge of
the Underground system.)

And lastly, I wouldn't expect any real trouble visiting the match -
some high-spirited behaviour will be in evidence I'm sure, but not any
actual trouble. (Unless you're going to be sat at the wrong end!)


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Mizter T wrote:

Fares - you should buy yourself a zones 1&2 Day Travelcard at a cost
of £5.30 this year - the price will rise to £5.60 next year. This will
cover you for unlimited journeys on the Underground in zones 1&2 -
i.e. the central area - plus all London buses.


I cannot thank you all enough!!

I was wondering if there was any bus to get to the Fulham Broadway area
at first to enjoy the views since is my first time visiting London. I'll
take the tube to get to the King's Cross Station when the match is over.
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"Larry" wrote in message
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In article
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Mizter T wrote:

Fares - you should buy yourself a zones 1&2 Day Travelcard at a cost
of £5.30 this year - the price will rise to £5.60 next year. This will
cover you for unlimited journeys on the Underground in zones 1&2 -
i.e. the central area - plus all London buses.


I cannot thank you all enough!!

I was wondering if there was any bus to get to the Fulham Broadway area
at first to enjoy the views since is my first time visiting London. I'll
take the tube to get to the King's Cross Station when the match is over.


The TfL journey planner
http://journeyplanner.tfl.gov.uk/
gives you the option of selecting which mode of transport.

If you choose bus it will probably involve a change at University College
Hospital
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On Sat, 20 Dec 2008, Larry wrote:

In article
,
Mizter T wrote:

Fares - you should buy yourself a zones 1&2 Day Travelcard at a cost of
£5.30 this year - the price will rise to £5.60 next year. This will
cover you for unlimited journeys on the Underground in zones 1&2 - i.e.
the central area - plus all London buses.


I cannot thank you all enough!!

I was wondering if there was any bus to get to the Fulham Broadway area
at first to enjoy the views since is my first time visiting London. I'll
take the tube to get to the King's Cross Station when the match is over.


You could take a river ferry from Blackfriars to Chelsea Harbour, and then
walk or bus the remaining mile from there to Stamford Bridge. However, the
ferry, being mainly for commuters, only runs mondays to fridays, and the
only sailings are at 1710, 1820, and 1910. There might be pleasure boats
that sail that route at other times, i'm not sure. I should mention that
ferries aren't really within the travelcard system - a travelcard gives
you a discount on the fare, not a free ride. If you wanted to do this, you
could get from KX to Blackfriars by bus, or the Thameslink railway line.

As for buses to Fulham, not a clue, but look for one which goes down the
King's Road, or along the Chelsea Embankment, as those will be the most
visually appealing routes, i think.

tom

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Paul Corfield wrote:

Are you supporting Chelsea or the other team? If it is the "other team"
then it may be sensible to not wear their colours while on the tube as
you're likely to be travelling with several hundred Chelsea fans!


Well, I was afraid you'd ask that. I'm not supporting Chelsea. Yet, for
my sake, I won't be wearing any colours at all!
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On 20 Dec, 22:25, Larry wrote:

In article ,
*Paul Corfield wrote:

Are you supporting Chelsea or the other team? *If it is the "other team"
then it may be sensible to not wear their colours while on the tube as
you're likely to be travelling with several hundred Chelsea fans! *


Well, I was afraid you'd ask that. I'm not supporting Chelsea. Yet, for
my sake, I won't be wearing any colours at all!


So you won't be wearing your zebra colours then?


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