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Memo to Northern Line Controller
In message , Clive D. W. Feather
writes If you're planning to detrain a southbound service at Finchley Central and run it empty to Highgate depot, why not let it continue in service to East Finchley and detrain it there? That way you won't hold up all the following trains while the driver walks all the way down to the back and then to the front again. Or is there a logical explanation for this instruction? Perhaps the train was withdrawn as defective? -- Steve Fitzgerald has now left the building. You will find him in London's Docklands, E16, UK (please use the reply to address for email) |
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Memo to Northern Line Controller
In article , Steve Fitzgerald
] writes Or is there a logical explanation for this instruction? Perhaps the train was withdrawn as defective? I don't think so. The driver announced it as "control has told me", not "there's a problem with the train". Oh, and the signal was red until part way through the detrainment (until then I'd assumed it was going into the siding). -- Clive D.W. Feather | Home: Tel: +44 20 8495 6138 (work) | Web: http://www.davros.org Fax: +44 870 051 9937 | Work: Please reply to the Reply-To address, which is: |
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Memo to Northern Line Controller
In article ,
Clive D. W. Feather wrote: If you're planning to detrain a southbound service at Finchley Central and run it empty to Highgate depot, why not let it continue in service to East Finchley and detrain it there? I've seen southbound train terminate at East Fincley often[1], but I've never seen a southbound train terminate at Finchley Central. Or is there a logical explanation for this instruction? A failure of equipment which makes the train unsutable for passenger use between West Finchley and Finchley Central? At that point it's probably better to run empty to the depot than run into the nearest siding and try and fix it there. [1] I go from Finchley to Archway, and as almost all southbound trains at Finchley go at least that far, I usually ignore the platform indicator. This means I get on the fisrt southbound train, and occasionally change at East Finchley. I've done this perhaps five or six times in the last year. -- I don't play The Game - it's for five-year-olds with delusions of adulthood. |
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Memo to Northern Line Controller
In article , Mike Bristow
writes I've seen southbound train terminate at East Fincley often[1], but I've never seen a southbound train terminate at Finchley Central. I have, but only either in platform 1 or to then go into the siding. A failure of equipment which makes the train unsutable for passenger use between West Finchley and Finchley Central? At that point it's probably better to run empty to the depot than run into the nearest siding and try and fix it there. See previous post. [1] I go from Finchley to Archway, and as almost all southbound trains at Finchley go at least that far, I usually ignore the platform indicator. This means I get on the fisrt southbound train, and occasionally change at East Finchley. I've done this perhaps five or six times in the last year. There's a scheduled one somewhere in the early evening; about 6pm, I think. -- Clive D.W. Feather | Home: Tel: +44 20 8495 6138 (work) | Web: http://www.davros.org Fax: +44 870 051 9937 | Work: Please reply to the Reply-To address, which is: |
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Memo to Northern Line Controller
Second memo to Northern Line controller: why on earth do you choose to
run six trains via Charing Cross in ten minutes, with none via Bank? I was at Kentish Town at 2210 on Friday night, thinking I'd left ample time to get to London Bridge by 2249. At Kentish Town station had an eight minute wait for a train, which was a Charing Cross one. The next two were also Charing Cross services. No problem, I thought, I'll change at Camden Town. Got off at Camden and crossed over, to find exactly the same situation for trains coming from Edgware. Finally a Bank train pulled in just after 2230. By Angel it was packed worse than peak hour. Got to London Bridge, sprinted up to the main platforms, only got my train as it was four minutes late. Why do the Northern Line controllers let this sort of situation arise? It was very annoying for me, but it could have been so easily rectified by rerouting a couple of the trains via Bank. Patrick |
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Memo to Northern Line Controller
Why do the Northern Line controllers let this sort of situation arise? It was very annoying for me, but it could have been so easily rectified by rerouting a couple of the trains via Bank. I think the better question is why didn't they split it into 2 separate lines? |
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Memo to Northern Line Controller
alex_t wrote:
Why do the Northern Line controllers let this sort of situation arise? It was very annoying for me, but it could have been so easily rectified by rerouting a couple of the trains via Bank. I think the better question is why didn't they split it into 2 separate lines? Because that would make Camden (even) unsafe(r) in the peaks and weekend afternoons. Until Camden Town is rebuilt, the Northern Line can't feasibly be split (Kennington is less of a problem, but I think the peak loads even there might cause problems). Unfortunately, assorted local NIMBYs are being troublesome about the Camden Town redevelopment - apparently the scheme might displace the vendors of pirated CDs and poorly-stitched T-shirts in the pikey Buck Street market near the station (NB not the rather more worthwhile Lock Market). So it's been rejected and is in limbo for the time being, as are Northern Line commuters. (see he http://www.alwaystouchout.com/project/62 ; see also the Thameslink 2K+n enquiry for other deranged "who gives a monkey's about transport links when we've got a market to preserve?" NIMBYism holding up essential public transport projects). -- John Band john at johnband dot org www.johnband.org |
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Memo to Northern Line Controller
John B wrote: alex_t wrote: I think the better question is why didn't they split it into 2 separate lines? Because that would make Camden (even) unsafe(r) in the peaks and weekend afternoons. Until Camden Town is rebuilt, the Northern Line can't feasibly be split (Kennington is less of a problem, but I think the peak loads even there might cause problems). Unfortunately, assorted local NIMBYs are being troublesome about the Camden Town redevelopment IIRC the main problem they had was that the proposed development was out of scale (and it certainly looks it in the first picture on the alwaystouchout link, less so in the second). Camden Town really needs a Mile End style flat, open platform interchange, with the two northbound branches sharing one platform, and the other platform having trains going southwards from both sides. I suppose the reason above ground demolition would be "needed" is access and, maybe, to pay for the whole redevelopment in the form of property sale & rental. Patrick |
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