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Do they have much of a hope?


Hopefully not - Aldgate East is not on the Brick Lane... London is full
of misplaced stations (Whitechapel, Rotherhithe, Bermondsey, Shepherd's
Bush) and we don't need yet another one.


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Tristán White writes

Something really should be done asap about Shepherds Bush. How confusing is
it to have two completely unconnected stations with exactly the same name.


I'm sure the denizens of Shepherds Bush are used to it. The original
Shepherds Bush station on what is now the H&C was moved much further
north to its present position in 1914. Then there was the Shepherds Bush
station on the LSWR loop line, on the south side of the green and now
long gone. The Central line Shepherd's Bush is on the north side, of
course, and almost next to it was the West London Line station for
Shepherds Bush (helpfully called Uxbridge Road, although it will be
called Shepherds Bush in its re-incarnated form). And that's not to
mention Goldhawk Road, which is very handy for the market, despite the
fact that it will be Shepherds Bush (H&C) that is to be re-named
Shepherds Bush Market. Then there are the various comings and goings of
the nearby Wood Lane / White City stations ... and nobody knows there
the flaming bush is, anyway!
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Tristán White writes

Shepherd's Bush Market will make a positive change. Renaming all three
would be even better. But the best option in my opinion, but probably
impossible from an engineering prospect, would be to keep all of them as
Shepherd's Bush and link them all via underground escalator walkways a like
Monument/Bank and Kings X/St P.


Its not so much the engineering as the fact that very few passengers are
likely to use such an interchange.

Other confusing ones include Hammersmith - two separate stations opposite
one another. But at least the two exits are close to one another, but
having Hammersmith North and Hammersmith South (or wherever they're facing)
would be simpler.


North Hammersmith is miles away (the area around Hammersmith Hospital,
well north of Shepherds Bush) so this would be potentially very
confusing.

Or better still, somehow link the two together and have
them down as two different exits from the same interchange.


A physical link, such as an underground passageway, would have been
possible during the many occasions when Hammersmith Broadway has been
rebuilt over the years. I suspect that it never happened because the
number of passengers requiring such an interchange is very small indeed.

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Paul Terry wrote:

A physical link, such as an underground passageway, would have been
possible during the many occasions when Hammersmith Broadway has been
rebuilt over the years. I suspect that it never happened because the
number of passengers requiring such an interchange is very small indeed.


If there was never an underground passageway, then what "Subway to
District and Piccadilly lines" is this (former) sign referring to?

http://greenberger.no-ip.com/gallery...geViewsIndex=1
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Paul Terry wrote:

A physical link, such as an underground passageway, would have been
possible during the many occasions when Hammersmith Broadway has been
rebuilt over the years. I suspect that it never happened because the
number of passengers requiring such an interchange is very small indeed.


If there was never an underground passageway, then what "Subway to
District and Piccadilly lines" is this (former) sign referring to?

http://greenberger.no-ip.com/gallery...geViewsIndex=1


It could have been referring to one of the subways under the road?
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What do you think of the petition by Brick Lane residents and shop and
restaurant owners to get Aldgate East renamed "Brick Lane" to boost the
area. Having lost Shoreditch station, they're getting a bit of a rum deal
at the moment.

Do they have much of a hope?


I'd have said Aldgate East being right on top of Brick Lane should be
the one renamed (if any).

Well they did rename Gillespie Road to please a load of footy fans, so I
reckon renaming Aldgate East to Brick Lane is ok, and they probably
stand the best chance with Ken as mayor.


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They've already had one half-hearted attempt at this about 15 years ago
when Shepherd's Bush(C) was going to become Shepherd's Bush Green. As
part of this plan new enamel line diagrams at Mile End WB carried the
new name, and indeed still do! I'm not sure if it ever appeared/appears
anywhere else and it certainly never got as far as Shepherd's Bush(C)
station itself.

If we can't have two Shepherd's Bush stations where does that leave
Edgware Road, Hammersmith and Paddington?

As for confusion for people arranging to meet outside a station, this
can occur even at a single site where there are multiple exits (e.g.
Victoria).

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On Sat, 30 Dec 2006, John Rowland wrote:

Mizter T wrote:
John Rowland wrote:

Aldgate East station is in Whitechapel High Street. It should probably
be called Whitechapel, and Whitechapel should be called something
else!


There's no convention in this country that says stations must be named
after the roads there on. Aldgate East is in the vicinity of Aldgate,
so I don't really buy that argument.


No, it's in the vicinity of Whitechapel, as evidenced by the fact that
it's on Whitechapel High Street.


Don't people now refer to the area around Whitechapel tube as Whitechapel,
though?

Yes I know Shepherd's Bush is having a name change - but that's a
change that pretty much everyone can agree on.


I don't know... Shepherds Bush Market has an entrance opposite Goldhawk
Road station. People standing in the foyer of Goldhawk Road Station
looking out will naturally think the they are in Shepherds Bush Market
station, and if they are phoning to be picked up, this could lead to
confusion.


Heh!

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On Sat, 30 Dec 2006, Paul Terry wrote:

Then there are the various comings and goings of the nearby Wood Lane /
White City stations


I think i missed the fact that the H&C station isn't going to be called
White City. Is there a plan for behind-the-barriers interchange? Was there
ever? Or am i thinking of Park Royal?

... and nobody knows there the flaming bush is, anyway!


Mount Sinai?

tom

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On Sun, 31 Dec 2006 12:40:38 +0000, Tom Anderson
wrote:

On Sat, 30 Dec 2006, John Rowland wrote:

Mizter T wrote:
John Rowland wrote:

Aldgate East station is in Whitechapel High Street. It should probably
be called Whitechapel, and Whitechapel should be called something
else!

There's no convention in this country that says stations must be named
after the roads there on. Aldgate East is in the vicinity of Aldgate,
so I don't really buy that argument.


No, it's in the vicinity of Whitechapel, as evidenced by the fact that
it's on Whitechapel High Street.


Don't people now refer to the area around Whitechapel tube as Whitechapel,
though?


Yup, IME.

See, frex:
http://www.bartsandthelondon.org.uk/...to_find_us.asp

"Directions and site maps are available for The Royal London Hospital
in Whitechapel".


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