"Roland Perry" wrote

That Oyster Photocard would be the "toddler Freedom Pass" then. How does a
tourist get one of those issued without using a ticket office to paste the
photo in?

The official name is a 5-10 Zip Oyster Photocard. As part of the application
process you upload a digital photo, If they can cope with age verification
online they post the card to you; if they can't the application has to be
completed and the card issued at a Travel Information Centre.

Ticket offices aren't part of the application process. London residents can
apply in person at a Post Office in London, but may, and non-London
residents have to, apply online.

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloa...conditions.pdf

Peter

In message , at 12:25:02 on
Sun, 24 Nov 2013, Peter Masson
remarked:
That Oyster Photocard would be the "toddler Freedom Pass" then. How
does a tourist get one of those issued without using a ticket office
to paste the photo in?

The official name is a 5-10 Zip Oyster Photocard. As part of the
application process you upload a digital photo, If they can cope with
age verification online they post the card to you;

How does the verification work if you are a foreign tourist? Must be
quite a system they have that'll verify the details of a Venuzuelan
passport online.

if they can't the application has to be completed and the card issued
at a Travel Information Centre.

Where are they? The only ones I was familiar with are St James's Park
and Trafalgar Square, and I thought they'd both been closed. Is there
one at Heathrow, so the arriving tourist can get their card before
catching the tube?

Ticket offices aren't part of the application process. London residents
can apply in person at a Post Office in London, but may, and non-London
residents have to, apply online.

Sounds like a bit of a hassle after arriving at Heathrow jetlagged, and
wanting your right to free travel. Assuming you can find some
connectivity in the tube station to log in I suppose. The well prepared
road warrior might have a digital photo of their offspring handy though.

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloa...tocard-terms-a
nd-conditions.pdf

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Roland Perry

Mizter T writes:

On 22/11/2013 14:33, Neil Williams wrote:

On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 11:38:22 +0000, Mizter T wrote:
I'm not sure all banks are issuing them, and even if they do they
won't necessarily issue them to every category of customer.

People said that of Chip and Pin.

No - Chip and PIN became a standard.

Contactless transactions inherently don't feature online authorisation
with the bank, because there isn't enough time.

When I use contactless payment in the local Co-op, the machine still
goes through the same calling acquirer, authorised messages it does when
I use my pin.

Phil

In message , at 13:39:58 on Sun, 24 Nov 2013,
Phil remarked:
Contactless transactions inherently don't feature online authorisation
with the bank, because there isn't enough time.

When I use contactless payment in the local Co-op, the machine still
goes through the same calling acquirer, authorised messages it does when
I use my pin.

s/online/real time/

It'd be interesting to have some case studies of where a contactless
transaction wasn't in fact accepted less than a second after being
proffered.
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Roland Perry

"Roland Perry" wrote in message ...

In message , at 12:25:02 on
Sun, 24 Nov 2013, Peter Masson
remarked:
That Oyster Photocard would be the "toddler Freedom Pass" then. How does a
tourist get one of those issued without using a ticket office to paste the
photo in?

The official name is a 5-10 Zip Oyster Photocard. As part of the
application process you upload a digital photo, If they can cope with age
verification online they post the card to you;

How does the verification work if you are a foreign tourist? Must be
quite a system they have that'll verify the details of a Venuzuelan
passport online.

if they can't the application has to be completed and the card issued at a
Travel Information Centre.

Where are they? The only ones I was familiar with are St James's Park
and Trafalgar Square, and I thought they'd both been closed. Is there
one at Heathrow, so the arriving tourist can get their card before
catching the tube?

Ticket offices aren't part of the application process. London residents can
apply in person at a Post Office in London, but may, and non-London
residents have to, apply online.

Sounds like a bit of a hassle after arriving at Heathrow jetlagged, and
wanting your right to free travel. Assuming you can find some
connectivity in the tube station to log in I suppose. The well prepared
road warrior might have a digital photo of their offspring handy though.

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloa...tocard-terms-a
nd-conditions.pdf

The well-organised Venezuelan tourist will have applied online from home,
then complete the application, showing the Venezuelan passport as
proof-of-age at the TIC at Heathrow. Others are at Kings Cross, Euston,
Liverpool Street, Victoria, and Piccadilly Circus.

Though the 5-10 yo Venezuelan tourist is unlikely to be travelling
unaccompanied, and tube travel for this age-group is free, without
photocard, if accompanying an adult ticket-holder (or an adult who has
touched in with Oyster).

Peter

In article , (Roland Perry)
wrote:

In message , at 12:25:02 on
Sun, 24 Nov 2013, Peter Masson
remarked:

if they can't the application has to be completed and the card issued
at a Travel Information Centre.

Where are they? The only ones I was familiar with are St James's Park
and Trafalgar Square, and I thought they'd both been closed. Is there
one at Heathrow, so the arriving tourist can get their card before
catching the tube?

I thought St James's Park Travel Information Centre closed the best part of
a decade ago?

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Colin Rosenstiel

In message , at 10:09:10
on Sun, 24 Nov 2013, remarked:
if they can't the application has to be completed and the card issued
at a Travel Information Centre.

Where are they? The only ones I was familiar with are St James's Park
and Trafalgar Square, and I thought they'd both been closed. Is there
one at Heathrow, so the arriving tourist can get their card before
catching the tube?

I thought St James's Park Travel Information Centre closed the best part of
a decade ago?

Could be as long ago as that. It always seemed to me that if they
couldn't justify such an outlet in their own HQ building, was there ever
a future for ones outside.
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Roland Perry

On Sat, 23 Nov 2013 16:48:26 +0000, Neil Williams
wrote:

On Sat, 23 Nov 2013 12:59:36 +0000, Scott
wrote:
How do you buy an Oyster card at a ticket machine?

Google it. The design of the narrow machines has been modified to
allow the issue of Oyster cards.

Thanks. I did not know that. I have not been to London for some
time. I should have googled first, but I know now.

On Sun, 24 Nov 2013 07:41:33 +0000, Roland Perry
wrote:
That Oyster Photocard would be the "toddler Freedom Pass" then. How
does
a tourist get one of those issued without using a ticket office to
paste
the photo in?

In most other countries I expect they would be unavailable and it
would just be a "tourist tax". Or a city tax would be charged on
hotel rooms and a free ticket issued for everyone staying.

But TfL intend to keep a few offices at major tourist entry points.

Neil

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Neil Williams. Use neil before the at to reply.

On Sun, 24 Nov 2013 18:17:38 +0000, Roland Perry
wrote:
Is any of that allowed for a contactless transaction?

I don't think there is any requirement to process it offline.

Neil

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Neil Williams. Use neil before the at to reply.