On 26 Jan, 21:32, "Paul Scott" wrote:
A few boxes overlaid on that drawing would have been useful, I reckon the
entrance to the St Pancras cross passage must be just above the word 'after'
in the title...

The St Pancras passageway is the yellow one in that corner with the
various "CTRL" labels.

Interestingly it shows the north end of the tube ticket hall is
apparently directly above the northern line platform concourse, which
must be where the lift that started this thread is going to be.

U

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, at
14:06:14 on Mon, 26 Jan 2009, Mr Thant
remarked:
The St Pancras passageway is the yellow one in that corner with the
various "CTRL" labels.

No, that's the subway under Pancras Rd.
--
Roland Perry

In message
Roland Perry wrote:

In message , at 18:20:52 on
Mon, 26 Jan 2009, Paul Scott remarked:
Yes, I'm pretty sure that's the one which said the flows would be clogged
up by people not wanting to step out into the rain.

Yes, thats about right, anyway I've found the flow diagrams again now, they
are in 'Station Design and Passenger Movements', one of the LB Camden
drawings Mizter T has just linked to at :

http://tinyurl.com/cth9rq

Oh yus. It's all deliberate. It's to "animate the square"

It's for freemasons?

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Roland Perry wrote:
In message
,
at 14:06:14 on Mon, 26 Jan 2009, Mr Thant
remarked:
The St Pancras passageway is the yellow one in that corner with the
various "CTRL" labels.

No, that's the subway under Pancras Rd.

Yes, I think it extends somewhat further in the direction shown, of course
it is already complete at the St P end isn't it

Paul

In message , at 21:32:26 on
Mon, 26 Jan 2009, Paul Scott remarked:
There are some drawings here that help with the relative layouts:

http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/rail/pi/ct...oncapacity.pdf

Figure 12 is the one that I've been working with earlier today. The
entrance "under the greenhouse" outside the SW corner of the KX listed
frontage is the one marked "Kings Cross Mainline ECML".

I reckon the shed runs parallel to the long passageway between the old
ticket office and the northern one.

Sounds good to me, with the SW corner of the main train shed immediately
adjacent to the 'NE' side of that 5-sided purple 'junction' at the left of
the stairs.

A few boxes overlaid on that drawing would have been useful, I reckon the
entrance to the St Pancras cross passage must be just above the word 'after'
in the title...

I've done a composite, as best I can quickly, which shows it's not
completely to scale: http://www.perry.co.uk/images/kx-composite.jpg

--
Roland Perry

In message , at 22:27:42 on
Mon, 26 Jan 2009, Paul Scott remarked:
The St Pancras passageway is the yellow one in that corner with the
various "CTRL" labels.

No, that's the subway under Pancras Rd.

Yes, I think it extends somewhat further in the direction shown, of course
it is already complete at the St P end isn't it

Yes, it was used briefly as a way to exit through the building site in
that vicinity, when the Kent Domestic platforms were the "temporary"
home of MML (I've got some pictures inside the passage dated Oct 04).
Been mothballed now for several years.
--
Roland Perry

In article , (Roland
Perry) wrote:

They are currently widening the circulating area inside the "old
building" by moving all the buffers about half a carriage-length
north, and eventually covering the resulting footprint with a
pedestrianised area. This will give a "corridor" from the platform
ends westwards to the new National Rail ticket concourse.

ITYF that those extensions affect platforms 5-8 only. Platforms 1-4 are
not being shortened.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

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,
() wrote:

Indeed the passenger bridge crossing from platforms 1 to 8 was
dismantled over Christmas, I used it every day for years, the supports
at either end are still in-place at this time. Parts of this bridge
are in cordoned off lock ups at the far end of platform 8. There was
talk that the passenger walk way exit at the top end of platform one
is to close also and passengers having to walk first around the front
of that satantion and then to the west end ticket hall before getting
access to the station. I would guess that some form of ticket barriers
will also go in and this is why this would be the only entrance.
Builders are dismantling the buildings by the top end of platform one
brick by brick. I did read something about an extra platform being
installed and would guess it would be next to platform one and why
they would close the top end side entrance there, been building there
for ages, its where the taxi used to drive down the side of platform
one. Anyone any info?

That's the Platform 0 scheme which I thought was currently under
construction, surely? I have a feeling it's changed name again, though.
The York Way access will have to go for that, surely?

--
Colin Rosenstiel

On Mon, 26 Jan 2009, Mizter T wrote:

Perhaps it simply exposed a fundamental weakness in the basic design,
one which can only be mitigated against

pedant

Ooh, one of my favourite grammos!

http://www.grammarphobia.com/blog/20...-mitigate.html

tom

PS What, you were expecting a /pedant?

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On Mon, 26 Jan 2009, Roland Perry wrote:

In message , at 21:32:26 on Mon, 26
Jan 2009, Paul Scott remarked:
There are some drawings here that help with the relative layouts:

http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/rail/pi/ct...oncapacity.pdf

Figure 12 is the one that I've been working with earlier today. The
entrance "under the greenhouse" outside the SW corner of the KX listed
frontage is the one marked "Kings Cross Mainline ECML".

I reckon the shed runs parallel to the long passageway between the old
ticket office and the northern one.

Sounds good to me, with the SW corner of the main train shed
immediately adjacent to the 'NE' side of that 5-sided purple 'junction'
at the left of the stairs.

A few boxes overlaid on that drawing would have been useful, I reckon
the entrance to the St Pancras cross passage must be just above the
word 'after' in the title...

I've done a composite, as best I can quickly, which shows it's not completely
to scale: http://www.perry.co.uk/images/kx-composite.jpg

Oh, that's rather good.

It matches up well with the back-of-the-envelope workings-out i did a
while ago about the location of the old Thameslink station relative to the
eastern end of the Victoria line platforms; we wondered if they were close
enough for the station building to be a useful second exit - my workings
and your overlay agree that they are.

tom

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